old world buthids

[pandinus]

it will be several months before i have enough cash for a new scorp, but i always say it is never too soon to start researching.
what i want is an old world buthid, but i should like to know which of these is the least hazardous? Parabuthus, Androctonous, or Leirus?
I'm still very nervous, but i am starting to fear them less.

 

[woijchik89]

Sounds cool.........How much?

 

[pandinus]

how much what? :?

 

[carpe scorpio]

it will be several months before i have enough cash for a new scorp, but i always say it is never too soon to start researching.
what i want is an old world buthid, but i should like to know which of these is the least hazardous? Parabuthus, Androctonous, or Leirus?
I'm still very nervous, but i am starting to fear them less.

Well, they are all "hazardous", but if you only look at aggressiveness, I would suggest Androctonus bicolor. This is still a dangerous old world buthid, but it is sometimes more likely to retreat if you need to reach a tool in the cage, toward crickets, it is ruthless and very entertaining to watch.

 

[pandinus]

sounds groovy

 

[carpe scorpio]

I just treat these like a loaded handgun, keep the business-end away from any part of my body.

 

[Mr. X]

Well, they are all "hazardous", but if you only look at aggressiveness, I would suggest Androctonus bicolor. This is still a dangerous old world buthid, but it is sometimes more likely to retreat if you need to reach a tool in the cage, toward crickets, it is ruthless and very entertaining to watch.

I have A.australis, A.bicolor and p.liosoma. From my experience with them, I would'nt suggest a.bicolor because mine is crazy, he always try to sting me and sometimes runs toward me. A. australis neither cause mine is pretty unpredictable. So I would say p.liosoma cause mine is really calm and sometimes doesn't mind if i touch it.

But dont forget this is only from my experience with mine, behaviors depends from each individuals.

Peace

xav

 

[carpe scorpio]

I have A.australis, A.bicolor and p.liosoma. From my experience with them, I would'nt suggest a.bicolor because mine is crazy, he always try to sting me and sometimes runs toward me. A. australis neither cause mine is pretty unpredictable. So I would say p.liosoma cause mine is really calm and sometimes doesn't mind if i touch it.

But dont forget this is only from my experience with mine, behaviors depends from each individuals.

Peace

xav

Yes, there are always exceptions, I had four L.Q., and three of them would go berserk if you so much as opened the lid. The fourth would sit there until there was a disturbance in the substrate. The A. crassicauda I had were all insane!!.

 

[pandinus]

i'm not sure if i will go through with my plan, but right now i have a tendency to lean towards A. australis, its just so grooooooovy plus parabuthus spit!

 

[carpe scorpio]

i'm not sure if i will go through with my plan, but right now i have a tendency to lean towards A. australis, its just so grooooooovy plus parabuthus spit!

So you just want something that's just plain "mad, bad, and dangerous to know"?.

 

[pandinus]

if it stays where it should, hell yea.!

I thought i was a wuss, which i am, but i can at least appreciate the beauty of these deadly creatures. my father treats O.W. buthids like nitroglycerin.

I just want to get over my fear. I mean assuming you are careful, how much risk is really involved?

 

[conipto]

Hey there,

In response to your last statement.. I would suggest not getting anything so dangerous "just to get over your fear" of it. Personally, I thik they are all pretty much equally dangerous, with the Parabuthis being moreso because of the rare venom spitting ability. I'd ask you why you want a hot species, when there are so many really awesome species out there that aren't nearly as hot?

Bill

 

[woijchik89]

how much what? :?

Like how much did it cost?

 

[woijchik89]

Got any pics of what it looks like?

 

[pandinus]

because they are some of the most beautiful species i have ever seen, i just cant justify the risk

 

[Mr. X]

I would say go for it...if you always know where your scorp is when your doing things in the enclosure and dont put your bare hands in it there's no reasons to panic and be afraid. And dont forget that 90% of the time scorps prefer to hide rather than fight. Thats something i learned with my experience (only 2 years but learned a lot in those 2 years)...scorpions are wuss even my a. bicolor and my a.australis always try to hide when confronted (sorry dont know the exact word in english).

So you should get one if you want to, just try to be a little more carefull with hot ones and you'll be fine.

enjoy

xav

 

[errit]

If I had to choose by with scorpion I had to be stung with. I would choose a parabuthus species. Because it is in comparison to leiurus and androctonus species simply less venemous. In the perspective I think parabuthus is the least hazardous because they are lower in toxicity. But they are able to spray venom off course.

 

[carpe scorpio]

You could also look into getting Mesobuthus tamulus.

 

[bookofenoch2003]

Pandinus

Hi Pan,

I own the above mentioned scorps you are asking about. The A.Bicolor I own trys to sting everything that comes near it. 14" tweezers(which I recommend you buy before recieving the scorp, you probably already have them)crickets...anyway, it stings everything.

The A.aust. /like Mr.X had stated unpredictable, just as bad as my L.Q.(it's a big babby most of the time/A.a. Nice color, really nice color....but it doesn't beat the P.Liosoma.

Androctonus Amourexi - favorite androctonus, just lost it to a molt. Nice colors, mine was skittish. Getting a replacement on Tues. for $18

I would pick A.aus. or A.amo. if you go with Androctonus sp. A.color is black, lots a black scorpions with no distinguishing landmarks on there body.

Parabuthus if your looking for a larger scorpion...and IMO better color scheme on P.L. The last caudal segment and telson are amazing just to look at. Until you have seen a Parabuthus Sp. running in the cage with its metasoma held up, your missing out. It's funny looking.

Anyway, I agree with some of what the forum says. Respect +/or self preservation are important.

You are getting involved in some fascinating scorpions. be careful.

Walter

 

[bookofenoch2003]

Errit

I have read that the larger the metasoma the more venom can be injected. So I would consider the size of the scorpion and not dismiss it as less deadly.

You know when I think about it. I would like to be stung by a Hadogenes Troglodyte..*S*. Got to love 'em..until you're pinched by one.

'rage, rage against the dying of the light',
Walter