Old world Arboreals that you see a fair bit.

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Pokies really are the best of the best. Mine are usually out as well, they are a true pleasure to have in glass display enclosures in the living. I have them just as I have my fish, front and center for everyone to enjoy. Metallica also stay smaller than most oher species.
 

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So my 12" cube Exo Terra should be big enough for most Pokey species. Any experience with P fasciata? I can't find much info when it comes to keeper experience across the forums with fasciata
My girl is a fasciata. Pretty similar to other pokies like regalis or striata. Possibly slightly smaller but not much. Easy to keep, great appetite, not overly flighty.
 

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Slightly off subject but what's people's view on H macs? I take it they're so cheap for a reason. The sound of those and S calceatum and I'm aware of what old worlds can do and am not complacent in the slightest I have P murinus and S javanensis so I can't be complacent, but I hear H mac and S calceatum are another level of speed and defensiveness, and as beautiful as they are you never see them. I'd rather know where my T is haha. Heard of on here, and more with S calceatum but I'm sure H Mac are capable and defensive enough to do the same, that S calceatum will jump at people and bite as a defense rather than flee first, bite and then retreat haha. None make me nervous of them two but undoubtedly stunning and the prices H Mac go for are tempting but you want to see such a beautiful T don't you.

Anyone find that H macs are barely ever seen or do most people see there's, just don't want to pass them up when I saw the list I saw without going into specifics as per group rules.
 

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I see mine in the mornings fairly often as well. Definitely flightier than a Pokie, but in my experience you do see them a fair amount.
Way more visible than my C. minax, for instance.
 

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I see mine in the mornings fairly often as well. Definitely flightier than a Pokie, but in my experience you do see them a fair amount.
Way more visible than my C. minax, for instance.
I ended up getting a P regalis 3 cm and Phormingochilus sp Ackaya 2 cm. Was having a great day then noticed my P reduncus has a few small slow moving white mites in its enclosure while taking a video to ventrally sex it so that wasn't great. Going to pre-empt my regalis and Phormingochilus sp Ackaya with Springtails just incase. Because these are guys I've wanted for a while.
 

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I see mine in the mornings fairly often as well. Definitely flightier than a Pokie, but in my experience you do see them a fair amount.
Way more visible than my C. minax, for instance.
its hard to resist such a gorgeous looking tarantula. Im definitely getting an avic before this 🤣
 

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Yeah the Fossorial Cyriopagopus are stunning Ts when you see them haha. I always thought H Mac where very photosensitive and hardly seen but people do have some that are exceptions I guess. I'm not sure on if people see there S cals? They are absolutely stunning S cals but I hear they're VERY defensive to the point of jumping out at you to bite to pre-empt what it perceives as an attack rather than running and hiding only biting when cornered. I'm wary doing maintenance with my Pokey sling to be honest haha.
 

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from my experience Pokies are out if it isn't too bright. I set their hides up in a back corner so I can peak in when they are behind it, but mine and my daughters are out a decent amount.
My fave, hands down, rufilata. I like the highland subfuscas a lot, some people love the lowlands. LOTS of them are variants on the regalis and most lack the contrast and come at a higher price point.
So regalia is a great buy. Sadly my vitiatta passed on, but we have my daughter's rufilata and formosa plus an ornata sling. We had an AF regalis, but a kid we have known from the shows really
wanted her and my daughter has known him since he was probably 8, so she sold her to him. She's doing quite well and her new owner is thrilled.
We use the Exoterra 12 x 12 x 18 (30x30x45) for all our pokies once they hit a certain size.
The 2 I have no interest in are H. Mac and Stromatapelma. Arboreal pet holes you never see until they come flying out of the brush to bite you.
 

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I’m not sure miranda is pretty small not sure which one of those is the smallest unless you already know there max sizes.
I think the only pokie that doesn't reach a large size (but can) under some circumstances is a P Met. My P Met is also my slowest growing. The P subfusca lowland/highland has some size differences. I'm not sure which one is larger between the 2.

from my experience Pokies are out if it isn't too bright. I set their hides up in a back corner so I can peak in when they are behind it, but mine and my daughters are out a decent amount.
My fave, hands down, rufilata. I like the highland subfuscas a lot, some people love the lowlands. LOTS of them are variants on the regalis and most lack the contrast and come at a higher price point.
So regalia is a great buy. Sadly my vitiatta passed on, but we have my daughter's rufilata and formosa plus an ornata sling. We had an AF regalis, but a kid we have known from the shows really
wanted her and my daughter has known him since he was probably 8, so she sold her to him. She's doing quite well and her new owner is thrilled.
We use the Exoterra 12 x 12 x 18 (30x30x45) for all our pokies once they hit a certain size.
The 2 I have no interest in are H. Mac and Stromatapelma. Arboreal pet holes you never see until they come flying out of the brush to bite you.
My Rufilata has a great temperament. Thank God. I named her "Angel" because pokies seriously can be angelic at times. The way they stretch and splay out. Graceful tarantulas for sure
 

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from my experience Pokies are out if it isn't too bright. I set their hides up in a back corner so I can peak in when they are behind it, but mine and my daughters are out a decent amount.
My fave, hands down, rufilata. I like the highland subfuscas a lot, some people love the lowlands. LOTS of them are variants on the regalis and most lack the contrast and come at a higher price point.
So regalia is a great buy. Sadly my vitiatta passed on, but we have my daughter's rufilata and formosa plus an ornata sling. We had an AF regalis, but a kid we have known from the shows really
wanted her and my daughter has known him since he was probably 8, so she sold her to him. She's doing quite well and her new owner is thrilled.
We use the Exoterra 12 x 12 x 18 (30x30x45) for all our pokies once they hit a certain size.
The 2 I have no interest in are H. Mac and Stromatapelma. Arboreal pet holes you never see until they come flying out of the brush to bite you.
Exactly what I thought may be the case and looking at bite reports on here and have known quite a few people say they very rarely ever see their H mac.

You have any experience with Arboreal Asian Ts that are out a bit? I know Poecilotheria are the most likely to be seen out, I think that is because they blend quite well into the Cork Bark, especially as slings.

I don't know of any others. I absolutely love Phormingochilus sp Rufus such a stunning T and a unique colour for the Ornithonoctinae Subfamily. I wish they were out more often. I know the Sp Ackaya like to sit out a bit as they get to adults so I got one.

The sp Rufus is so inexpensive in the hobby these days and if I could see it a fair bit I would love to get one but I heard it's even less seen in the open that C sp Hati Hati. I love the look of Asian Arboreals, but I like to see my Ts so it's a Catch 22 and doesn't leave me with many options.

A few Psalmopeus species I may look into though, I already have reduncus. P pulcher or emeraldus and maybe victorii.

I hope more Asian Arboreals that are out on display a bit enter the hobby and give me more options.

Still may have to get sp Rufus just because it's a stunner but gonna be disappointed looking at a piece of Cork bark the whole time I have that haha.

If you know of any species that do stay out and about now and then at least, Asian Arboreals then I'd love to hear about some... Not counting Poecilotheria as I know about them. P rufilata, ornata, subfusca highland and maybe miranda on my list for the future. Only Terrestrial I'm looking into is another iheringi to go with the one I have.

Species I have are P murinus RCF, P murinus TCF, S javanensis, P reduncus, G iheringi, P regalis, P sp Ackaya and a Cheloctonus jonesii Scorpling. So I definitely do want to be getting more.
 

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Exactly what I thought may be the case and looking at bite reports on here and have known quite a few people say they very rarely ever see their H mac.

You have any experience with Arboreal Asian Ts that are out a bit? I know Poecilotheria are the most likely to be seen out, I think that is because they blend quite well into the Cork Bark, especially as slings.

I don't know of any others. I absolutely love Phormingochilus sp Rufus such a stunning T and a unique colour for the Ornithonoctinae Subfamily. I wish they were out more often. I know the Sp Ackaya like to sit out a bit as they get to adults so I got one.

The sp Rufus is so inexpensive in the hobby these days and if I could see it a fair bit I would love to get one but I heard it's even less seen in the open that C sp Hati Hati. I love the look of Asian Arboreals, but I like to see my Ts so it's a Catch 22 and doesn't leave me with many options.

A few Psalmopeus species I may look into though, I already have reduncus. P pulcher or emeraldus and maybe victorii.

I hope more Asian Arboreals that are out on display a bit enter the hobby and give me more options.

Still may have to get sp Rufus just because it's a stunner but gonna be disappointed looking at a piece of Cork bark the whole time I have that haha.

If you know of any species that do stay out and about now and then at least, Asian Arboreals then I'd love to hear about some... Not counting Poecilotheria as I know about them. P rufilata, ornata, subfusca highland and maybe miranda on my list for the future. Only Terrestrial I'm looking into is another iheringi to go with the one I have.

Species I have are P murinus RCF, P murinus TCF, S javanensis, P reduncus, G iheringi, P regalis, P sp Ackaya and a Cheloctonus jonesii Scorpling. So I definitely do want to be getting more.
P. victorii is a great addition, probably my fave of the genus but Psalmos can be total pet holes as well. I like Phormingochilus but again, rarely out. Then again, if we just adjust our expectations so their visits are cherished moments, it makes it a bit easier to handle. My daughter's rufilata loves its hide, but I can peak in on her
there. But when she crawls out onto the front of the bark it is a moment of celebration. She's out probably 50% of the time, and yes, Pokie Camo makes them sit out on their bark because "I'm invisible" . Her formosa is constantly out but will retreat if you are not subtle in your approach
 

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P. victorii is a great addition, probably my fave of the genus but Psalmos can be total pet holes as well. I like Phormingochilus but again, rarely out. Then again, if we just adjust our expectations so their visits are cherished moments, it makes it a bit easier to handle. My daughter's rufilata loves its hide, but I can peak in on her
there. But when she crawls out onto the front of the bark it is a moment of celebration. She's out probably 50% of the time, and yes, Pokie Camo makes them sit out on their bark because "I'm invisible" . Her formosa is constantly out but will retreat if you are not subtle in your approach
I hear sp Ackaya is a bit of an exception to the rule with Phormingochilus but I'm only going off what a few people say and yeah I guess so I may still go with a sp Rufus at some point.
 

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I hear sp Ackaya is a bit of an exception to the rule with Phormingochilus but I'm only going off what a few people say and yeah I guess so I may still go with a sp Rufus at some point.
I may be adding P. Victorii this month. Have an empty enclosure....
 

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My P.miranda is out all the time, doesn't even move an inch when I pure some fresh water in her dish, the H.mac mostly hiding, although there's a relatively good chance to catch her outside, especially at night. She can be skittish, but sometimes chooses not to bother herself about the torch/flashlight at all, allowing me to take as many pics as I want. I keep them in the same cabinet in fairly dark conditions (not completely, as the doors are opened a bit, and the room is usually pretty bright).
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My P.miranda is out all the time, doesn't even move an inch when I pure some fresh water in her dish, the H.mac mostly hiding, although there's a relatively good chance to catch her outside, especially at night. She can be skittish, but sometimes chooses not to bother herself about the torch/flashlight at all, allowing me to take as many pics as I want. I keep them in the same cabinet in fairly dark conditions (not completely, as the doors are opened a bit, and the room is usually pretty bright).
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That Miranda is stunning. The H Mac is lovely as well
 

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I find my h. Maculata are out more as they age. Our house is pretty low activity, not many stresses and kind of dark so they are often out. But the slightest bump, they walk back into their home
 

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I have a Rufilata, Metallica, Regalis, 2x Tigrinawesseli and 3x Ornata and they are always out unless about to molt. My Rufilata is 6 inches and my 4 year old daughter loves putting her hand against the glass just to see how small it is compared to the spider. Definitely check out the Tigrinawesseli. It's extremely underrated.

I also have Phormingochilus sp Rufus, Sabah Red and Sabah Blue. They are much less visible than my pokies.
 

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I have a Rufilata, Metallica, Regalis, 2x Tigrinawesseli and 3x Ornata and they are always out unless about to molt. My Rufilata is 6 inches and my 4 year old daughter loves putting her hand against the glass just to see how small it is compared to the spider. Definitely check out the Tigrinawesseli. It's extremely underrated.

I also have Phormingochilus sp Rufus, Sabah Red and Sabah Blue. They are much less visible than my pokies.
I have a Poecilotheria regalis sling it's a large sling about 3-4 CM. Out quite a lot and a great species. Quite a few of the Poecilotheria species are awesome but I know most people like those so I didn't include them because everyone would say Pokeys which I know are already awesome and out a lot. I think rufilata and ornata are beautiful but hear they can be a bit more bolty and defensive than the other species. I do like subfusca highland and a few others it's a stunning genus they're all beautiful in their own way.
 

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Slightly off subject but what's people's view on H macs? I take it they're so cheap for a reason. The sound of those and S calceatum and I'm aware of what old worlds can do and am not complacent in the slightest I have P murinus and S javanensis so I can't be complacent, but I hear H mac and S calceatum are another level of speed and defensiveness, and as beautiful as they are you never see them. I'd rather know where my T is haha. Heard of on here, and more with S calceatum but I'm sure H Mac are capable and defensive enough to do the same, that S calceatum will jump at people and bite as a defense rather than flee first, bite and then retreat haha. None make me nervous of them two but undoubtedly stunning and the prices H Mac go for are tempting but you want to see such a beautiful T don't you.

Anyone find that H macs are barely ever seen or do most people see there's, just don't want to pass them up when I saw the list I saw without going into specifics as per group rules.
I see my h mac a fair bit, but only in the evenings and he's quite skittish. He did jump on my hand once during a rehousing which was a little startling at the time but nothing bad came of it
 
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