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lalberts9310

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OBT - aka orange bity thing = african old world specie, fast, aggressive and very very potent venom (believed to be at the top of the list of tarantula venom potency along with poecilotheria). Beginner specie? I think NOT. You'll be overwhelmed by this Ts behaviour even more so of risking the T and yourself of harm or injury, even death to the T. To all the "bad boys" out there, OBTs are not toys. Seriously. If you want a beginner T, get a Brachypelma or Grammastola. If your looking for a docile aboreal specie get avicularia. But OBT as a beginner T is a NO GO! Would really be foolish if you'd go through with this.
 

Martin1975

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I can't see why everyone is so hyped over an OBT,yes they are orange so are some others. Attitude ? I can show tarantulas with way more than an obt,and are in my opinion way more beautiful like say cobalt blues or Singapore blues. I have a load of old worlds,but some might laugh but something as simple looking as an S.Hoffmanni catches my eye more new world not a looker but the only new world and only T to have a horn like those from Africa. That in my opinion fascinates me a lot,why the only one ? Why outside Africa ? Why not seen in Asian countries ? Loads of questions,and fun to follow up on this to me an enigma.

http://www.tarantulaforum.com/index.php?threads/1755/
 

gobey

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I have to disagree about them being overrated. As far as baboons go, they're one of the best ones around.
What do you like about them?

I'm not saying they're awful or anything. I mean my big girl is stunningly gorgeous. When she's out... And it's so cool to see her walk tge enclosure. She doesn't web though. She tried to and like forgot how to tarantula.

But aside from being orange and having baboon patterns (which I like), she's a serious tease and right now is literally a mound of dirt and has been for over 2 weeks now.

Sling wise my H. maculatas fascinate me far more. They're super cool to watch hunt and move. And my large one already shows patterns at a little under an inch.

The OBT slings... They're cool because even at a half inch you can see they're orange. But they're absolutely terrors. Like my T equivalents of rambunctious 3 year olds on pixie sticks.

And I find my P. regalis a more interesting OW too.

I'm thinking I should've went Ceratogyrus at some point and refused the OBT slings.

One big female is enough. She's one of few tarantulas I don't want 2 of. I'm weird like that so far.


Anyways I sound like I'm dumping on the poor OBT. I do love my girl. I'm glad I have one. I just could also have been as happy with other OW I think. And she's not a favorite really. The slings add excitement. But will be a pain to rehouse.

Again they may strike fancy to many... But these reasons keep them out of,my preference... And would likely also probably frustrate a beginner too. Dangerous venom aside.
 

BobGrill

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They're gorgeous looking in both their coloration and patterning, as well as the fact that they construct some very elaborate and awesome- looking webs. The attitude doesn't mean much to me, just makes me respect them more. However their temperament isn't one of the things that made me want to get one. I see mine out and about fairly regularly, so I guess I'm lucky. H.maculata is probably tied with P.murinus for my favorite baboon.

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I can't see why everyone is so hyped over an OBT,yes they are orange so are some others. Attitude ? I can show tarantulas with way more than an obt,and are in my opinion way more beautiful like say cobalt blues or Singapore blues. I have a load of old worlds,but some might laugh but something as simple looking as an S.Hoffmanni catches my eye more new world not a looker but the only new world and only T to have a horn like those from Africa. That in my opinion fascinates me a lot,why the only one ? Why outside Africa ? Why not seen in Asian countries ? Loads of questions,and fun to follow up on this to me an enigma.

http://www.tarantulaforum.com/index.php?threads/1755/
Because people have different tastes? I'm not a fan of some of those species you just listed. No particular reason, they're just not my cup of tea.
 
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lalberts9310

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I'm into OW species as well, IMO they are way more interesting and more strikingly beautiful in colouration.. just my opinion, but I wouldn't recommend OW species to beginner tough, not because they're "bad", just because they may be overwhelming to the beginner and "too much" for a first T when it comes to speed, venom, temperament etc. I would rather recommend NW species such as Brachypelma to the beginner (maybe start with a juvie or sub-adult?) get a feel for it, and when comfortable I would move on to other Ts with more "spunk" such as psalmopoeus.. then after being comfortable with a more faster, aggressive NW I would consider getting my first OW, most likely terrestrial that is suitable for a first OW T. Just my opinion.. but I don't find NW Ts fascinating except for the psalmopoeus which is my favourite.
 
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I think I would like to try an OW someday... Just think I'll learn a lot more first. I don't ever feel the need to attempt to type a bite report while suffering any or all of the symptoms I've read about in other reports.
The best OW to start with are Ceratogyrus. As juveniles/adults they're usually out in the open, and don't attempt to run out of cages. I rarely get a threat pose from mine, of course if you prod them you probably will. Well-behaved by OW standards. They're fast growing, hardy, love to spin, & have great appetites. I open the lid, they just sit there, I drop in several crickets, and they start grabbing them. If I have to remove the water bowl, they may or may not react, and if the do, it's backing away a few inches, without a threat pose. Many of the NW tropical terrestrials are more high strung.
 

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I have to agree with what Poec54 says about Ceratogyrus.

It seems like there is at least one of these threads a week and everyone keeps making the same posts.
Pretty sure troll
 

ArachnoFreak666

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I am not going to buy one of these yet, but what would you say to a newbie (who knows nothing about
Tarantulas or the forum) that is thinking about buying an obt as a first tarantula, and would i be right
in saying that obts are the chihuahuas of the tarantula world (temperment)?
just because of how ridiculous this thread is that you made... I hope you buy this T and get bit. this may sound harsh, but if you are in anyway serious about this post and actually arnt trolling, then you shouldn't even be in this hobby anyway.
 

Enn49

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she could find.

Well my first T was an OBT. I had read up on them and accepted their reputation but I just loved their colour. I bought a juvi female and have not seen her for about 6 months. She built herself an amazing web cave covered in substrate and anything else she could find. I know she eats by the bolus she throws out, she uses her water bowl as she drags substrate into it and I know she has moulted, she chucked that out too in 2 bits. I have respected her privacy and always keep an eye on her cave when doing cleaning etc. just in case and always use long tongs. Ohhh, how I would love to see her.
 

gobey

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They're gorgeous looking in both their coloration and patterning, as well as the fact that they construct some very elaborate and awesome- looking webs. The attitude doesn't mean much to me, just makes me respect them more. However their temperament isn't one of the things that made me want to get one. I see mine out and about fairly regularly, so I guess I'm lucky. H.maculata is probably tied with P.murinus for my favorite baboon.

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I love my maculatas! I think their tunnel systems are amazing. Mine have built them in shpagnum moss. And they walk to cute! :3
The patterns are absolutely awesome. That ghostly white is so beautiful. And they are more shy than defensive.

My OBT I got because... Well orange baboon markings. Mine doesn't web though. And it's probably because of the provided hide. I did NOT get her for attitude. I am happy if I never see a threat pose from her.

My slings web like crazy.

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The best OW to start with are Ceratogyrus. As juveniles/adults they're usually out in the open, and don't attempt to run out of cages. I rarely get a threat pose from mine, of course if you prod them you probably will. Well-behaved by OW standards. They're fast growing, hardy, love to spin, & have great appetites. I open the lid, they just sit there, I drop in several crickets, and they start grabbing them. If I have to remove the water bowl, they may or may not react, and if the do, it's backing away a few inches, without a threat pose. Many of the NW tropical terrestrials are more high strung.
I want one very badly... I'd love both darlingi and marshalli. If I could get to a reptile show and find a good home for the baby OBTs I'd definitely get myself some!
 

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They're gorgeous looking in both their coloration and patterning, as well as the fact that they construct some very elaborate and awesome- looking webs. The attitude doesn't mean much to me, just makes me respect them more. However their temperament isn't one of the things that made me want to get one. I see mine out and about fairly regularly, so I guess I'm lucky. H.maculata is probably tied with P.murinus for my favorite baboon.

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Because people have different tastes? I'm not a fan of some of those species you just listed. No particular reason, they're just not my cup of tea.
Never said you should be ? Was asking a question,not a conversion. Obviously my choices won't be liked,preference of taste was just wondering why are they so sought after. Like I did when I texted of S.Hoffmanni, I gave reasons why they fascinated me.

http://www.tarantulaforum.com/index.php?threads/1755/
 

lalberts9310

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I love my maculatas! I think their tunnel systems are amazing. Mine have built them in shpagnum moss. And they walk to cute! :3
The patterns are absolutely awesome. That ghostly white is so beautiful. And they are more shy than defensive.

My OBT I got because... Well orange baboon markings. Mine doesn't web though. And it's probably because of the provided hide. I did NOT get her for attitude. I am happy if I never see a threat pose from her.

My slings web like crazy.

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I want one very badly... I'd love both darlingi and marshalli. If I could get to a reptile show and find a good home for the baby OBTs I'd definitely get myself some!
H. Maculata are absolutely stunning Ts, I can't wait to have one someday.
 

Ceratogyrus

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I'll come stick up for OBT's. :)
Awesome webbers and they have a great feeding response. Seeing the orange tarantula creep around at night is great too.
But obviously Ceratogyrus are better. :) Out of the one's I keep, C.brachycephalus is my favourite by far.

Another spider you do not see often is Harpactira. Also a great OW and mine tend to spend their time outside their burrows and are not quite as defensive as murinus
 

gobey

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Tunnel system? My AF barely webs at all.
Poec kind of already explained... But did you have her as a sling at all???

Give an H. mac sling a big clump of shpagnum moss... And in the morning you'll have an intricate super mario like system of tube web. :)
 
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