OBT, Honduran Curly Hairs, and a Salmon Pink Bird Eater!

[BobGrill]

I was looking at those earlier btw, I thought they were much prettier than the OBT, I just didn't want to kill it. I definitely agree about not being ready for that one!

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Wait, that's a green bottle blue? It doesn't look like the kinds I've seen o.o

That's because the one you're seeing in this picture is a spiderling. They don't become blue until around 2-3 inches.

 

[viper69]

I would NOT get an OBT if I was you. Their beauty is EXCEEDED by their aggressiveness. It is the ONLY species I have owned that had no problem attacking and moving forward to hang on during a bite. It's an advanced species to own. They are tough to kill no doubt, very, very hardy.

If you want a slightly more challenging and hardy species after you have doing great with your terrestrial species, get a GBB, and for arboreals, Venz. SunTiger (P. irminia). Though I would caution you that Suntigers are extremely fast. I'd own a fast terrestrial before I owned a fast arboreal to get used to the speed that which a T can move at. Just my 2 cents.

I think people who are new to Ts and see all these colors and run out a buy a bunch are asking for trouble sooner rather than later because they are only aware of the beauty and rarely aware of the behavior of their new wild animal. Some people think "fast" oh I can do that fine, but until they actually see a full grown B. smithi (a slow species too) spin 180 degrees around and back again for a cricket, faster than a human can blink. They really don't have an idea of how fast a T can be, let alone species that are much faster like a Venz Sun Tiger. I have a small Venz Sun Tiger (2" diag leg span), and I'm INCREDIBLY careful with it. I've seen it pop in and out of its burrow sensing a cricket faster than a jack in the box head, they are lightning on 8 legs.

 

[BobGrill]

I would NOT get an OBT if I was you. Their beauty is EXCEEDED by their aggressiveness. It is the ONLY species I have owned that had no problem attacking and moving forward to hang on during a bite. It's an advanced species to own. They are tough to kill no doubt, very, very hardy.

If you want a slightly more challenging species that is hardy, get a GBB, and for arboreals, Venz. SunTiger (P. irminia). Though I would caution you that Suntigers are extremely fast. I'd own a fast terrestrial before I owned a fast arboreal to get used to the speed that which a T can move at. Just my 2 cents

They said they weren't getting the OBT so there's nothing to worry about there

Also I don't think the OP is quite ready for a suntiger either. Maybe not as fast or mean as most OBTs, but is still fast and can be quite defensive. However, I think your suggestion of getting a fast terrestrial first is a good one. LPs are kind of mid-speed from what I've heard.

 

[viper69]

But they're so beautiful they're worth it! Wouldn't it just boil down to switching habitats and feeding it in an almost bare room with something stuffed under the door so it couldn't escape? Like a bathroom?

Worth what....worth getting bitten, worth having something go awry and kill or hurt your pet wild animal by accident?

No it just doesn't boil down to that. It would be that way if humans were robots w/out nerves, w/out emotions. Now maybe you have nerves of steel, so when a 3" or larger P. irminia (Venz Sun Tiger) runs up your clothes, pressed against your skin, or on your legs you can simply stand there and calmly take off your clothes in order to get it free, then you'll be fine.

Arboreal species in general are far more challenging than terrestrials because they are nature's gymnastics. I've seen some of my Avics (which are slower than Sun Tigers) do acrobatic maneuvers in the air (some I can't even see it was too fast) against any surface/s they were presented with. They will take a FLYING leap w/out even knowing that they can fall 4 ft and die (as they expect leaves/branches to be below them).

I suggest with the good advice you have already been given that you research the advanced species you think you want now, and purchase them much further in the future.

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They said they weren't getting the OBT so there's nothing to worry about there

Also I don't think the OP is quite ready for a suntiger either. Maybe not as fast or mean as most OBTs, but is still fast and can be quite defensive. However, I think your suggestion of getting a fast terrestrial first is a good one. LPs are kind of mid-speed from what I've heard.

I know the OP is not ready haha. Read above. =)

 

[Hydrazine]

I am quite terrified about the prospect of moving Morgana (my 0,1 P.irminia) when the time comes. Fortunately, that time is not due for at least several more months.

 

[viper69]

One thing I boast about is my complete lack of fear when it comes to dangerous animals (probably to the point where most people think I'm just acting stupid) but I still try to be smart about things and heed warnings others give me (what teenager doesn't?)

Boasting about your "complete lack" of fear is a sign of someone who is not mature enough and more importantly doesn't take the animals they are interacting with seriously. Boasting IS acting stupid. Good luck, because you and the wild animals you want to obtain are going to need it.

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I am quite terrified about the prospect of moving Morgana (my 0,1 P.irminia) when the time comes. Fortunately, that time is not due for at least several more months.

What DLS is yours Hydra..mine is about 2-2.5", so manageable, relatively speaking haha.

 

[Hydrazine]

What DLS is yours Hydra..mine is about 2-2.5", so manageable, relatively speaking haha.

I haven't had a chance to measure her after her recent moult, but I had guesstimated her to be 7-8 cm before.

 

[viper69]

I haven't had a chance to measure her after her recent moult, but I had guesstimated her to be 7-8 cm before.

Not too different than mine then..good to know. I love your signature file on your posts!!

 

[CitizenNumber9]

One thing I boast about is my complete lack of fear when it comes to dangerous animals (probably to the point where most people think I'm just acting stupid) but I still try to be smart about things and heed warnings others give me (what teenager doesn't?)

^^^^ forget bravery that will only cause complications for you.

For example.... You could be brave one day and decide to remove a cricket by hand from an OBT enclosure... That bravery will quickly follow with a realisation of great stupidity and searing hot pain followed by two bleeding fang marks.

Respect is the word you want to practice around Ts or any dangerous animal for that matter. Give the animal te respect it deserves you will get on alot better than rash acts of bravery.

I said I wasn't afraid, not that I'm brave enough to put myself or the people I live with in danger of being bitten. Just because I'm not afraid of venomous snakes doesn't mean I'm going to test my speed against one.

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Worth what....worth getting bitten, worth having something go awry and kill or hurt your pet wild animal by accident?

No it just doesn't boil down to that. It would be that way if humans were robots w/out nerves, w/out emotions. Now maybe you have nerves of steel, so when a 3" or larger P. irminia (Venz Sun Tiger) runs up your clothes, pressed against your skin, or on your legs you can simply stand there and calmly take off your clothes in order to get it free, then you'll be fine.

I just meant worth having to stay on your toes, worth not being able to handle it. I know you won't believe it and a lot of people will say this, but it really wouldn't phase me. I don't know why, but spiders (even deadly ones) have never scared me at all, no matter how fast. It scares me even less to know that they won't kill me. I'm just not a jumpy person. I am however worried about another repeat occurrence where I can't take care of the creature and end up harming it, that's what scares me. I researched these 3 T's before making this post and deciding I wanted them. I know the OBT has a painful bite, I know they're very fast. I know I'm inexperienced with tarantulas, but I've come across and handled my share of dangerous animals (for my age anyway.) I know I'm still young, but I'm not a child who doesn't understand what they're dealing with. When I bought my first tarantula I was under the impression that owning a T would be a piece of cake. Listening to the person I bought it from rather than researching it for myself was a huge mistake, one that I won't make again not just with a T, but with any animal.

I have a lot to learn, both from more experienced hobbyists like yourself and from experience. Treat me like a student, not like a child.

 

[viper69]

I just meant worth having to stay on your toes, worth not being able to handle it. I know you won't believe it and a lot of people will say this, but it really wouldn't phase me. I don't know why, but spiders (even deadly ones) have never scared me at all, no matter how fast. It scares me even less to know that they won't kill me. I'm just not a jumpy person. I am however worried about another repeat occurrence where I can't take care of the creature and end up harming it, that's what scares me. I researched these 3 T's before making this post and deciding I wanted them. I know the OBT has a painful bite, I know they're very fast. I know I'm inexperienced with tarantulas, but I've come across and handled my share of dangerous animals (for my age anyway.) I know I'm still young, but I'm not a child who doesn't understand what they're dealing with. When I bought my first tarantula I was under the impression that owning a T would be a piece of cake. Listening to the person I bought it from rather than researching it for myself was a huge mistake, one that I won't make again not just with a T, but with any animal.

I have a lot to learn, both from more experienced hobbyists like yourself and from experience. Treat me like a student, not like a child.

Ah I see what you mean by staying on your toes/worth it now. Got it.

It doesn't matter what I believe regarding what would phase you or wouldn't. I'm simply pointing out some things.

I treat you for exactly what you are: an interested, and highly inexperienced tarantula hobbyist (no more, no less). I don't respond to children. As for previous dangerous animals, they are all different. If you told me you were the world's expert in free diving with great white sharks, I would have written the same information, along with "how crazy cool was that!!" =)

 

[CitizenNumber9]

Ah I see what you mean by staying on your toes/worth it now. Got it.

It doesn't matter what I believe regarding what would phase you or wouldn't. I'm simply pointing out some things.

I treat you for exactly what you are: an interested, and highly inexperienced tarantula hobbyist (no more, no less). I don't respond to children. As for previous dangerous animals, they are all different. If you told me you were the worlds expert in free diving with great white sharks, I would have written the same information, along with "how crazy cool was that!!" =)

Lol well once I've braved the tarantula world and managed to gain the experience to own, tame, and ride a wild OBT into the sunset I shall add underwater shark choreography to my bucket list!
As a teenager I'll say that I don't care about anyone's opinion until I'm blue in the face but in the end I do, and so does everyone else.
I respect wild animals and the danger they carry, but I also think they're hella cool and do.t scare me one bit
To tell the truth, getting scratched by a rabbit scares me more than being bitten by any spider haha

I just want to get a tarantula or two that I can gain experience from that will be rather hard for me to kill - thats why I like the idea of owning an OBT. They don't scare me, and they will sur I've under my care. In my mind they were the perfect choice! I hate to admit it, but no matter what kind of tarantula I'd have bought it probably would have died just because of the mindset I had about these animals :/

 

[viper69]

To tell the truth, getting scratched by a rabbit scares me more than being bitten by any spider haha
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I've been scratched by a wild rabbit before, and that SUCKED, right down my arm, oo that was painful. However, after reading the bite report forum here, and watching YouTube, I know I'd take the rabbit over being bitten by some of the species I own.

Greenbottle Blues are excellent choices as the "next" step tarantula after relatively docile NW terrestrial species, like Rose Hair, smithi etc. They are incredibly HARDY, and you can keep them bone dry, and they are incredibly pretty. Blue's a generally rare color for animals (except for fish and birds), that's part of the reason I opted to get one as my first more challenging species, as opposed to say a Venz. Suntiger (more challenging, and MUCH faster)

 

[MarkmD]

I agree dont get the OBT just yet, stay on the NW side, LP are good, same as B,Albo and GBB, they are brilliant choices.

 

[CitizenNumber9]

Well in an effort to keep my order the same price, I will switch out the 3 OBT slings for a nice pulchripes sling - I'm sure this will make my friend Poec very happy
Besides, the one I'm really excited about is the LP, fingers crossed for a female!

 

[viper69]

Well in an effort to keep my order the same price, I will switch out the 3 OBT slings for a nice pulchripes sling - I'm sure this will make my friend Poec very happy
Besides, the one I'm really excited about is the LP, fingers crossed for a female!

G. pulchripes? They are perfect. It and probably the Pink Zebra Beauty are the 2 best Ts I can think of to get when wants a Large T. I've seen 2 different females, different bloodlines, they were LARGE. And it's "relative" the Brazilian Black is beautiful, shiny jet black, like coal.


here's a G. pul. not even full grown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5tFcLPj5Q8

 

[CitizenNumber9]

G. pulchripes? They are perfect. It and probably the Pink Zebra Beauty are the 2 best Ts I can think of to get when wants a Large T. I've seen 2 different females, different bloodlines, they were LARGE. And it's "relative" the Brazilian Black is beautiful, shiny jet black, like coal.


here's a G. pul. not even full grown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5tFcLPj5Q8

You know I just realized how hilarious it would be to name the G. Pulchripes GP after a friend of mine who HATES spiders x) I know they're beautiful alright I really like the N. Coloratovillosus also

 

[viper69]

You know I just realized how hilarious it would be to name the G. Pulchripes GP after a friend of mine who HATES spiders x) I know they're beautiful alright I really like the N. Coloratovillosus also

Almost got one of those! I don't know anything about them anymore haha..had to make room more the ones I own.

 

[CitizenNumber9]

Almost got one of those! I don't know anything about them anymore haha..had to make room more the ones I own.

I'd add one to my order, they're only $15, but I'm already at $50 and 12 T's in the order (plus whatever freebies they said they'd send me)

 

[Keith B]

I think your order is plenty large enough to begin with. You'll have your hands full, especially if you're getting slings, which is what it sounds like. That's another stage where they're easier to kill, so I hope you make it past that okay. G. pulchripes doesn't just make Poec happy, it makes all of us happy, because it's a perfect starter species for you: big, pretty, hardy, docile, relatively slow-moving, etc. There's some owners that move into advanced T's, and their trusty ol' pulchripes is still their favorite tarantula. Excellent choice!

 

[reunsch]

Just curious, why are you starting with 12+ tarantulas? Are those 12 different species or multiples of a few species? Personally I'd start with fewer and get more as time goes on. It'll prevent you from being swamped with lots of spiders, particularly slings. As you become more familiar with them you'll find out about other species on the Boards that you're interested in, and then you can build a nice collection.