Non-Urticating, Terrestrial, New World Species?..

[Butterbean83]

As in the title... What Non-Urticating, Terrestrial T species are there out there as I need every compromise I can with the missus. Want to show her there is nothing to worry about. Been wanting one for ages. I know about the Arboreals that don't flick hair but there speed may be a little too much to begin with and might be off-putting to the missus haha. She is warming to the idea but I don't wanna put her off with getting a lightning fast arboreal, or a mar hair flicking T Stirmi. I'd rather there was no chance of them flicking hair at all for now.

So if you know of any Terrestrial/Fossorial, Non-Urticating Ts then please enlighten me so I can have a look at availability etc

Thankyou

 

[ChaniLB520]

While Arboreals in the genus Avicularia (and Caribena) do have urticating hairs, they can't flick them but have to rub them off against you. As long as you aren't handling them (which you should not be promoting anyway), then it shouldn't be an issue. They are usually quite docile too (though any individual tarantula could be an "outlier" and behave differently). I can't think of any new world that doesn't have urticating hairs at all except the fast arboreals and genus Holothele and Neoholothele (which may be slightly more skittish and are dwarf species, but could be a good option too).

 

[Butterbean83]

Yeah the latter two or the Tanzanian chestnut which is old world but a dwarf and not as defensive as other old worlds. I think I may look at the latter two. Yeah I'd never handle unless I had to for some essential reason which I doubt there would be a reason to. Yeah a dwarf species would be good, my girlfriend has taken some convincing so they could be good to put her mind at rest.

 

[ChaniLB520]

The Tanzanian chestnut (Heterothele villosella) is one of my favorite species! I thought about recommending it but wasn't sure if you wanted to hear about old worlds. But as long as/ when you feel ready I would highly recommend them. They are fast, but usually just to come out and grab food and then return to their burrows - they run to hide, not to escape. I have had no trouble with the rehousings and no major issues, and I've raised 5 of them to adulthood and initiated a breeding project (just got an egg sac from one of my females!) I hear great things about Neoholothele incei too.

 

[viper69]

The mini-GBB is a great choice and N incei

 

[Spoodfood]

The mini-GBB is a great choice and N incei

I agree with this. Worth keeping in mind these might seem a little fast to the uninitiated.

 

[viper69]

I agree with this. Worth keeping in mind these might seem a little fast to the uninitiated.

That’s what research is for

 

[NMTs]

Generally speaking, terrestrial/fossorial NW species without urticating setae are going to be smaller, fast and skittish - you won't find any big, lumbering, pet-rock types that fit the bill. It's a trade off - instead of developing urticating setae for defense, they just became fast enough to not need them.

See post # 17 in this thread for a comprehensive list of NW species that lack urticating setae (comprehensive as of 2 years ago, anyway):

List of new worlds which do not possess urticating hairs

With the input of the experienced members on this site, could this thread be used to compile a list of new worlds which do not possess urticating hairs? I will add to this list as the esteemed members add them Neoholothele Psalmopoeus tapinauchenius Pseudoclamoris D diamantinensis ......

arachnoboards.com

Maybe you'll find one on there that tickles your fancy.

 

[HOITrance]

See post # 17 in this thread for a comprehensive list of NW species that lack urticating setae (comprehensive as of 2 years ago, anyway):

I didnt know about this post!! Thank you for another resource!

 

[MyDadHasTarantulas]

The Pslamopeous genus are arboreal but do not have urticating hairs.

 

[ladyratri]

I need every compromise I can with the missus.

I know this isn't what you asked directly in this thread but -- if she's still really uncomfortable with a T, have you considered starting with a jumping spider? They're small, more widely (ok, uh, maybe "less narrowly") seen as cute and adorable, and whether actually true or not, definitely "feel" safer than even a relatively small T with mild venom.

She is warming to the idea but I don't wanna put her off with getting a lightning fast arborea

My husband has been quite accepting, but was not exactly excited when I got my first T... Now he's checking in on them daily and telling me when they do cute derpy T things. Part of that is that we happen to have a similar aesthetic in what animals we find beautiful.

My mom thought I was nuts, then I sent her a picture of rehousing my second T -- a small juvi C. versicolor -- and she was shocked. I didn't look up her exact quote but it approximated "I had no idea they could be so beautiful":


While they technically have urticating hairs, they don't flick. They're "fast" but not teleporting like my psalmos, and have milder venom. Otoh my husband also loves my two P. irminia because they are sleek gorgeous predators.

You might consider that finding her aesthetic -- a T she could find beautiful -- might be worth small compromises on defensiveness and speed. Especially if she never has to be in the room when the enclosure is open.

 

[Butterbean83]

Thanks everyone and I'll check this out too I think the Neoholothele Incei and the Tanzanian Chestnut are two without even looking. I've done a fair bit of scouring the Internet but always good to hear from guys with experience too so thankyou everyone

 

[Butterbean83]

I know this isn't what you asked directly in this thread but -- if she's still really uncomfortable with a T, have you considered starting with a jumping spider? They're small, more widely (ok, uh, maybe "less narrowly") seen as cute and adorable, and whether actually true or not, definitely "feel" safer than even a relatively small T with mild venom.



My husband has been quite accepting, but was not exactly excited when I got my first T... Now he's checking in on them daily and telling me when they do cute derpy T things. Part of that is that we happen to have a similar aesthetic in what animals we find beautiful.

My mom thought I was nuts, then I sent her a picture of rehousing my second T -- a small juvi C. versicolor -- and she was shocked. I didn't look up her exact quote but it approximated "I had no idea they could be so beautiful":
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While they technically have urticating hairs, they don't flick. They're "fast" but not teleporting like my psalmos, and have milder venom. Otoh my husband also loves my two P. irminia because they are sleek gorgeous predators.

You might consider that finding her aesthetic -- a T she could find beautiful -- might be worth small compromises on defensiveness and speed. Especially if she never has to be in the room when the enclosure is open.

Sorry that last message was one I never replied with the other day but yeah I could compromise and find one that is non threatening and aesthetically pleasing

 

[ant ramblings]

I know this doesn't answer your question directly . But allot of the chilled nw terestrials don't actually kick hairs even though they do possess them . You seen to be cutting out a huge amount of potentially great spiders .

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I know this doesn't answer your question directly . But allot of the chilled nw terestrials don't actually kick hairs even though they do possess them . You seen to be cutting out a huge amount of potentially great spiders .

Good point some of mine really have too be annoyed badly to kick , and some I recal never kicking .