Nhandu chromatus loss :(

foxy

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I've raised this spood from a 0.5 inch sling, but the last couple of days it's been constantly in what I believe is a stress pose(legs pulled up covering its carapace, I've kept in no different to the way I've kept it the past 14 months humidity and temp wise..I came home tonight and checked on them and filled all their water bowls and my nhandu never moved which was out of the ordinary it usually scampers away....so ive gently touched its legs and abdomen with I soft brush and it is completely lifeless...I'm assuming I've lost it ...do T's pass without going into a death curl? and what could be possible causes, is there anything I should check the body for when and if I have to remove it from its enclosure? Thank you in advance..(pics attached)
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foxy

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Weird it appears to be stretching like before or after molts. Sorry for your loss.
Thankyou...according to arachnofile data it estimated a molt was due around this time it had been 135 days since its last molt..
 

Denn

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That shamefully appears to be a failed molt in my opinion. Sorry for your loss. I honestly don't see anything wrong with the husbandry so I wouldn't worry about whether you did anything wrong, it happens from time to time even with the most healthy of spiders.
 

foxy

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Just a quick update although it was still in the same lifeless position 24 hours later, I resided myself to the fact it was time to remove it but on my return I was greeted with this(see pic) seems I haven't lost it at all it must have just been struggling to molt, first time I've had a T molt upright too....I just hope now it makes a complete post molt recovery.... lesson learnt patience is key and I should never assume....
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TLSizzle

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That's awesome that it's still with you! Keep a cautiously optimistic eye on it over the next few days.
Good luck and I hope you keep us updated!
 

gabrieldezzi

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Just a quick update although it was still in the same lifeless position 24 hours later, I resided myself to the fact it was time to remove it but on my return I was greeted with this(see pic) seems I haven't lost it at all it must have just been struggling to molt, first time I've had a T molt upright too....I just hope now it makes a complete post molt recovery.... lesson learnt patience is key and I should never assume....
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She cheats death! Huzzah!
 

Denn

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Just a quick update although it was still in the same lifeless position 24 hours later, I resided myself to the fact it was time to remove it but on my return I was greeted with this(see pic) seems I haven't lost it at all it must have just been struggling to molt, first time I've had a T molt upright too....I just hope now it makes a complete post molt recovery.... lesson learnt patience is key and I should never assume....
This is such good news! Thanks for the update!
 

foxy

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Well HE yes it was an it in my first post, but after seeing him now walking around I can now confirm it's a HE...he's molted into a MM...Would this have contributed to the difficult molt?
 

Rigor Mortis

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That's awesome that you didn't lose this T. They can die in positions other than death curls though, so you were right on that. Hope your guy makes a full recovery from his weird moult.
 

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Well HE yes it was an it in my first post, but after seeing him now walking around I can now confirm it's a HE...he's molted into a MM...Would this have contributed to the difficult molt?
Miracle It survived I rarely see upright molts!!! That definitely makes it harder.
 

Scoot

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Wow, that's an amazing turnaround! You must be so relieved! And good job you left him alone!
 

klawfran3

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Haha those crooked legs in the first few photos looked real bad, and I kept reading expecting the worst. Glad he's all good! Everyone loves a handsome MM! Make sure to post photos of him!

But honestly I don't blame them for sitting in weird positions when theyre close to molting. It must be so uncomfortable to have a second skin fully developed inside your current one. You can always just tell when they're in late premolt, they hold themselves so uncomfortably and move so awkward, like they're sore.
 

fcat

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Well HE yes it was an it in my first post, but after seeing him now walking around I can now confirm it's a HE...he's molted into a MM...Would this have contributed to the difficult molt?
I've read that the maturing molt can pose problems clearing their emboli/palps, and to expect the molt to take longer than ordinary. I just had a guy hook out last night who flipped and then was completely motionless for a good 12 hours. I was getting a little nervous. Went to sleep, woke up, still nothing. Got my torch to see if he at least popped before he died and only then did he start wiggling.

When my tarantulas have molted upright, they almost never lay a molt mat. My verdezi female was the only exception. It's almost always my older specimens, with the exception of my GBB who has molted upright more times than not since about 1.5".

C O N G R A T S !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

foxy

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Just thought you guys deserved a quick up date...He had been in a constant stress pose since his molt and very jittery when he sensed any movement, kinda like he was having a little fit...but these photos took today, looks like he's making a recovery, no more stress pose or jitters..

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lutoper

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These creatures are truly fascinating! Great news and congratulations on the T pulling through ok.
 

octo pedes

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A little late on the conversation - and really happy he is OK. I do not remove an unresponsive T until it smells, or deflates. People poke at me when I say this but in all the years keeping, I have seen in my own collection at least 3 times I would have buried a live specimen.
 
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