New to forum - Would like some help :)

[Masked Shadow]

Hi everyone, I am Masked Shadow, an animal enthusiast.

At the age of 15, I keep multiple large fish tanks, and a couple species of reptiles. I’ve had experience with Praying Mantis’s and Scorpions, but I’m here to try something new.

I’m looking at Whip Scorpions in general. They seem like a really cool species, and wondering if you could provide the easiest ones to care for. I have a tank that is 65 gallons available soon. 24” tall. It is 36” long and 13” wide. I want a species of whip scorpion that I could handle, or a species of tarantula that I can handle. I really do like the way the whip scorpions look, and would prefer a show-stopping oddball. African whip scorpion is what I’ve been looking at. I do not know much about invertebrates, but I am willing to give it a shot and learn as much as I can.

Thanks!
Masked Shadow

 

[Poonjab]

Just be careful of the ones with long whips. They’ve been known to whip peoples eyes out. Even a few cases of being whipped to death.

 

[kingshockey]

the search function would be most helpful to you for learning stuff about th care of your future pets far as handling/holding etc.not really recomended with tarantulas one drop/mishandle can kill em along with there being zero benefit in doing that for the tarantula(they are like your fish a watch and enjoy type pet) about Amblypygi i dunno about i would assume the same fall risks can result in death or injury for them also . welcome to the forum and good luck with what you decide on keeping

 

[Dry Desert]

Just be careful of the ones with long whips. They’ve been known to whip peoples eyes out. Even a few cases of being whipped to death.

A whip scorpion and a coach whip snake, you wouldn't come out alive.

 

[Masked Shadow]

Does anybody know anything about the care of them? They are docile, from what I read, but very fast and agile. It’s not something I would handle all the time. The tank is large, 3’ long, 2’ high, and 13” wide, so a large species of whiptail would be cool.

Tanzanian Giant Tailless Whipscorpion | Animal World

The Whip Scorpions are amazing, but appetizing and good enough to eat?… eww! Tanzanian Giant Tailless Whip Scorpions are intriguing but weird looking creatures. Tailless whipscorpions have enjoyed an increase in interest over the last year or two with their recent appearance on a number of TV...

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Is this information accurate? Could I keep 4 of these in my tank?

 

[Smotzer]

I highly suggest you use the taxonomic names because whipscorpion is not even the correct common name for what you Are seeking information on. Whipscorpion most commonly refers to Thelyphonida (vinegaroons). You seem to be asking about Amblypygi or tailless whipspiders.

also based on your tank I would say you should rethink your motivations because a 65 gallon tanks is far more massive than it needs to be for any arachnid and I personally would never house one in said tank, because it will make managing its care such as feeding next to impossible and they are not like fish or reptiles that utilize all that extra space anyway. And it’s easier to manage one animals care when starting with an order than it is managing multiples in one large tank. Best to start small to learn how to provide to best focused care first

also if your main motivation is to get an arachnid is to handle it you should probably just not get one, that’s not an attack on you, but arachnids are not like other pets and do not truly appreciate handling and it can be very dangerous and prove to be fatal to them if they are handled and fall. They’re best kept as visual pets like fish, not physical pets like a lizard. At the end of the day this comes down providing the utmost best care possible for the animal, no more, no less!

if you are still considering getting an Amblypygi you should research specific species that are available captively bred and then post what you have leaned and anything extra you are looking for information wise that you couldn’t find researching. The Arachnoboards website contains lots more information than new folks realize so search thoroughly within the site.

 

[ThatsUnpossible]

Smotzer is right. If you learn to use the search properly it will be the best way to research and also comes in handy when there's not many people around in the forum.

I put Amblypygi husbandry into the search and quite a few threads came up. This is just one of them:

Help with an Unexpected Amblypygi

So this all just happened the last two hours. We got a local guy who lives around me who works at a big box pet store. Sure we can all assume which. Starts with a Pet and ends with a Co. Lol He has a habit of buying "weird" animals there that he just kills with bad husbandry or gets rid of...

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[Masked Shadow]

I am talking about Amblypygi. I looked it up, and they can be kept communally, so I thought maybe a couple of them would be fine.

 

[darkness975]

I am talking about Amblypygi. I looked it up, and they can be kept communally, so I thought maybe a couple of them would be fine.

Tailess whip scorpion eating other tailess whip

Hello all, I went to do my nightly misting and found my smaller tailless whip eating the bigger one (I'm aware this can happen) . Long story short I noticed my bigger one not eat for a couple of weeks but didn't see this happening. My smaller one ate a cricket two days ago and now seeing this...

arachnoboards.com

 

[Wolfram1]

If what i heard is true Daemon sp. are highly cannibalistic.

There are some species that are more tolerant of each other and that even reproduce and grow in numbers if kept as a group.

 

[Masked Shadow]

If I keep more than 2 are they still canabalistic?

 

[Arachnopets]

If I keep more than 2 are they still canabalistic?

Cannibalistic does not depend on the amount you keep. it is either cannibalistic or it isn't.

 

[CRX]

If I keep more than 2 are they still canabalistic?

Why are you ignoring the other people in the thread who gave you advice? You just ignoring because it's not what you wanted to hear? Arachnids are not made for handling. Dare I say, NO pet is "made" for handling. They do not exist for us to handle them.

 

[darkness975]

If I keep more than 2 are they still canabalistic?

See my post #9 above.

 

[CRX]

See my post #9 above.

He chose to ignore it lol

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

There are some species of amblypygi that are *less* prone to cannibalism than others, but all are predators that will happily gobble up a neighbour, sibling, offspring, parent, or mate.

If you want to try your hand at keeping amblypygi, your best chance of success is to get ONE, choose a captive-bred specimen (wild-caught specimens are much more prone to health problems), and learn all about the care requirements of that species before you acquire it.

 

[Wolfram1]

Euphrynychus bacillifer are quickly spreading across europe (in captivity) because they do so well as a group and readily reproduce as well. However it is still not a guarantee that no cannibalism takes place.

I described an example i heard about in the post @darkness975 linked.

Not sure if they are available in the states.

They can get quite large with age.

Other than that, if you are not sure about a species, always assume they are highly cannibalistic and seperate them, because many are.

 

[Masked Shadow]

Tailess whip scorpion eating other tailess whip

Hello all, I went to do my nightly misting and found my smaller tailless whip eating the bigger one (I'm aware this can happen) . Long story short I noticed my bigger one not eat for a couple of weeks but didn't see this happening. My smaller one ate a cricket two days ago and now seeing this...

arachnoboards.com

Why are you ignoring the other people in the thread who gave you advice? You just ignoring because it's not what you wanted to hear? Arachnids are not made for handling. Dare I say, NO pet is "made" for handling. They do not exist for us to handle them.

See my post #9 above.

It doesn’t show anything about groups, which is why I asked. I am just making sure.

There are some species of amblypygi that are *less* prone to cannibalism than others, but all are predators that will happily gobble up a neighbour, sibling, offspring, parent, or mate.

If you want to try your hand at keeping amblypygi, your best chance of success is to get ONE, choose a captive-bred specimen (wild-caught specimens are much more prone to health problems), and learn all about the care requirements of that species before you acquire it.

Euphrynychus bacillifer are quickly spreading across europe (in captivity) because they do so well as a group and readily reproduce as well. However it is still not a guarantee that no cannibalism takes place.

I described an example i heard about in the post @darkness975 linked.

Not sure if they are available in the states.

They can get quite large with age.

Other than that, if you are not sure about a species, always assume they are highly cannibalistic and seperate them, because many are.

Thanks for this. I will see if I can get my hands on a Tanzanian Whip Scorpion. If I can’t I will look into some kind of communal bug - maybe Prickly

To clarify, it would be nice to handle it, but I don’t need to. I get that insects aren’t the best to handle.

I’ll let you know how it goes!

 

[Albireo Wulfbooper]

Thanks for this. I will see if I can get my hands on a Tanzanian Whip Scorpion. If I can’t I will look into some kind of communal bug - maybe Prickly

To clarify, it would be nice to handle it, but I don’t need to. I get that insects aren’t the best to handle.

I’ll let you know how it goes!

FYI "tanzanian whipscorpion" generally refers to amblypygi in the Damon genus, which are almost 100% wild-caught, extremely sensitive, and make up 99% of the "help, my amblypygi is dying" posts we get here. If you decide to get one, you MUST keep it extremely moist and stress-free, particularly while it's recovering from transport until it has its first successful moult in your care.

 

[Masked Shadow]

It seems whip-scorpions are a harder pet to keep. What would you suggest for such a large tank that would be easy and relatively cheap.