New H. Pulchripes sling

Althecreature

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Dry sub, small water dish




Almost no sub here, add a lot more sub.

Search these into Google:
“H Pulchripes care site:arachnoboards.com”

Thanks for linking these I hadn’t seen that second thread!

These are just to show you how my HP has rearranged it they way they want. It was originally all up in the middle, but it has done some redecorating and seems quite happy. The funnel is particularly cool. Substrate is quite deep for all my slings so they have somewhere to hide if they need it.
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Wow yeah the funnel is so cool!
 

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@Althecreature, care if we rewind a bit to right before everyone started to get defensive? First of all, text based communication is difficult. Clearly expressing intent in the written form is an imperfect science and sadly a dying art. The bulk of human communication is non-verbal, so without having visual (body language) or auditory (tone and volume) clues, we all have to "fill in the blanks" and make assumptions about a message's intent based on our own emotions, not those of the sender.

So, with that in mind, I'd just like to point out that if someone is looking for tips and advice, they're generally looking for additional knowledge to augment a pre-existing base of knowledge. They're not looking for a step by step instructional to build a skill set.

The problem is that without indicating what that base of knowledge is, it's hard to give advice as someone who might have the experience, and it's also unfortunently easy for people to perceive the requestor as someone demanding a requestee to spend their time "spoon feeding" all their own hard-won knowledge for little or no gain for no reason other than the requestor asked.

To your credit, you did state that you've done your research into husbandry prior to asking for tips and advice. The conversation likely would've been more productive if you had shared the results of that initial research and your planned husbandry (ie enclosure size, diet, water bowl size, etc) so we could help you better understand or build on it instead :) . Sadly, not all sources of information out there are accurate or up to date ;).

As far as the topic at hand, I've yet to keep a lot of Harpactirinae spp, just some P. murinus localities, so I can't add a lot to the conversation. IME, those were practically bulletproof and quick to retreat given the proper enclosures and hides, so I don't think you'll have too much difficulty in keeping a member of this subfamily alive and well.
 

Althecreature

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@Althecreature, care if we rewind a bit to right before everyone started to get defensive? First of all, text based communication is difficult. Clearly expressing intent in the written form is an imperfect science and sadly a dying art. The bulk of human communication is non-verbal, so without having visual (body language) or auditory (tone and volume) clues, we all have to "fill in the blanks" and make assumptions about a message's intent based on our own emotions, not those of the sender.

So, with that in mind, I'd just like to point out that if someone is looking for tips and advice, they're generally looking for additional knowledge to augment a pre-existing base of knowledge. They're not looking for a step by step instructional to build a skill set.

The problem is that without indicating what that base of knowledge is, it's hard to give advice as someone who might have the experience, and it's also unfortunently easy for people to perceive the requestor as someone demanding a requestee to spend their time "spoon feeding" all their own hard-won knowledge for little or no gain for no reason other than the requestor asked.

To your credit, you did state that you've done your research into husbandry prior to asking for tips and advice. The conversation likely would've been more productive if you had shared the results of that initial research and your planned husbandry (ie enclosure size, diet, water bowl size, etc) so we could help you better understand or build on it instead :) . Sadly, not all sources of information out there are accurate or up to date ;).

As far as the topic at hand, I've yet to keep a lot of Harpactirinae spp, just some P. murinus localities, so I can't add a lot to the conversation. IME, those were practically bulletproof and quick to retreat given the proper enclosures and hides, so I don't think you'll have too much difficulty in keeping a member of this subfamily alive and well.
Thanks for this thoughtful response :) Andrew and I worked out our back and forth privately and are all good !!!
 

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This does help thank you, helpful to know what type of hardscape you’re using - the breeder said that for now (while in the deli cup) an occasional mist will due for hydration, do you mist as well or rely solely on the water dish? I know they need quite a dry environment



The intro bits of course, the details on this species and its defence mechanisms, they need warm and dry environments, will tolerate slightly cooler but won’t tolerate much humidity, very fast so be cautious of bolting, on the quick growing side which I’m excited about, I feel comfortable with feeding schedule and food size and monitoring the abdomen and all that

I’ve seen people use pure coco fibre, or a mix of that and sand for this species - I’ve traditionally used reptisoil but this is my first fossorial so I’d like to know what some keepers here recommend

I know they need quite a dry environment even as slings, the breeder has said just to mist occasionally while it’s this small, but I’ve also read to include a waterdish without overfilling, or place some water droplets on the webbing - my plan is to mist while in the deli cup, add a waterdish once I move it to a more permanent home and then once it’s older maybe incorporate some water drops depending on the T’s habits / behaviour. I’m curious about what people may recommend on that

& I haven’t had a heavy webber before either so some ideas for hardscape that are nice for it to web up would be nice - I got some leaf litter for the time being which I’ll use to create a hide and start a little burrow - I’ll probably use cork bark in the future but I’ve seen some keepers use tubing and I don’t know if that’s because it’s easier for the T to web up
FYI- no need to feed them on a schedule. They certainly don't have one in the wild.

Tubing??

I use cork as its most mold resistant in general - so one size fits all for me.

You can use PVC, and sand the insides to roughen it up to make for better silk adherence. Silk sticks to virtually anything so I wouldn't worry too much there.
 

Althecreature

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FYI- no need to feed them on a schedule. They certainly don't have one in the wild.

Tubing??

I use cork as its most mold resistant in general - so one size fits all for me.

You can use PVC, and sand the insides to roughen it up to make for better silk adherence. Silk sticks to virtually anything so I wouldn't worry too much there.
I keep a rough schedule just to make sure I always have fresh feeders but I go by abdomen size primarily

- yeah tubing

Cork being mold resistant is a good reminder - thanks!
 

viper69

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I keep a rough schedule just to make sure I always have fresh feeders but I go by abdomen size primarily

- yeah tubing

Cork being mold resistant is a good reminder - thanks!
I've tried every wood out there, and nothing is better than cork bark. Plus it's light in mass., you can use a coping saw to saw off little cork slices for slings, like Avics, or whatever. Best I've found.
 

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The trouble with care sheets, some are not up to date and they are pretty much for adult T's. Spiderlings usually have a completely different setup to adults. Arboreal and terrestrial T's mostly start on the ground with plenty of places to hide as they are most vulnerable at that age, so spend their time in burrows or hidden under things. It's also important to note at a young age they need that extra moisture not just to drink, but it keeps their moults from drying out and getting stuck. The best way to have your enclosure is to keep the lower part of the sub damp and let the top dry out a bit, they will find their own place they like the most, if they want it more damp they will dig down and vice versa.
Just a heads up to the guy who said my enclosure looks soaking wet, it's not. That darker substrate is from the spring tails I put in, my substrate is a lot lighter so the contrast makes it look wet.

I have to say though, I am new here and It is a shame to come to these pages and feel threatened by people when asking a simple question. Yes, not everyone does their research and as most people in the hobby know, data is changing all the time. So what was right last week, might not be this week. There is a certain bravado around any hobby and I understand that, but please keep in mind, everyone learns differently and at a different pace.
What is top priority in Spider care should always be the spider first and it would be nice if people could take a breath before typing their rant or finger pointing at the keeper.
Help the people asking questions so they know what they are doing wrong and they don't go away and continue to do things wrong because they are too afraid to ask. Everyone has to start somewhere and we are all guilty of doing something wrong at some point, I know I am, but its how you rectify mistakes that count. So be nice please.
Anyway, my point over, I was up most of the night thinking about this and now I am back at work and knackered. Here's a pic of cute jumper, just to cheer everyone up. GettyImages-120464542-56d4c9003df78cfb37d9371c.jpg
 

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Personally I thought this was the best response to the “What has your research told you,” in a long time.

I don’t get why some people are allowed to post copious new posts with the most basic questions that scream no research and they get coddled for it. I do try to be nice but after so many posts, I start wondering why the people here are being so nice about 🤣

And then you wrote an educated response and it incites this…

I just want to say don’t take it personal. It’s one of the best things about this site…as you could imagine misinformation doesn’t last long around here and not without discussion.

Why you had to learn how to ride a bike on the first push, but others get praised 1, 2, 3 low hanging fruit posts later for keeping their training wheels, I don’t know. I mean it’s obvious when people don’t do research. I’m still figuring out the algorithm at play. But anyway, welcome lady!
 

Stuart M

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Personally I thought this was the best response to the “What has your research told you,” in a long time.

I don’t get why some people are allowed to post copious new posts with the most basic questions that scream no research and they get coddled for it. I do try to be nice but after so many posts, I start wondering why the people here are being so nice about 🤣

And then you wrote an educated response and it incites this…

I just want to say don’t take it personal. It’s one of the best things about this site…as you could imagine misinformation doesn’t last long around here and not without discussion.

Why you had to learn how to ride a bike on the first push, but others get praised 1, 2, 3 low hanging fruit posts later for keeping their training wheels, I don’t know. I mean it’s obvious when people don’t do research. I’m still figuring out the algorithm at play. But anyway, welcome lady!
Completely agree when that person has clearly not done any research, they annoy me too. But some people just want to know a bit more from other people who have had the experience, its a human thing. They should be treated a bit better. But yeah, browse the pages first.
 

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Just a heads up to the guy who said my enclosure looks soaking wet, it's not. That darker substrate is from the spring tails I put in, my substrate is a lot lighter so the contrast makes it look wet.
You need to state this then, as it looks soaking wet from that photo. If someone is searching for info and sees that setup and trys to copy it they would have made it soaking wet without you stating it is not, cmon even you must see it, it looks soaked.
 

Stuart M

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You need to state this then, as it looks soaking wet from that photo. If someone is searching for info and sees that setup and trys to copy it they would have made it soaking wet without you stating it is not, cmon even you must see it, it looks soaked.
Yup. my bad, I'll add more info next time.
 
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