Mystery Tarantula

[WYSIWYG]

Originally posted by Steve Nunn
This spider is definately a Paraphysa sp., probably P.manicata or P.scrofa. IT ISN'T A G. ROSEA!

Cheers,
Steve

From what I understand, th Paraphysa species are CONSIDERABLY smaller than G. roseas.

Wysi

 

[Godzilla2000]

Originally posted by Steve Nunn
This spider is definately a Paraphysa sp., probably P.manicata or P.scrofa. IT ISN'T A G. ROSEA!

Cheers,
Steve

Regardless I'm still buying her. Do that have an Arachnids Anonoymous?

 

[Professor T]

Originally posted by Steve Nunn
This spider is definately a Paraphysa sp., probably P.manicata or P.scrofa. IT ISN'T A G. ROSEA!

Cheers,
Steve

Steve,

It is hard to tell from the photo, but you may be correct. Paraphysa scrofa is commonly mistaken for Grammostola rosea.

Check out the pictures at the link below:

12gauge-tarantula Paraphysa scrofa

 

[Mendnwngs]

Kinda looks like an aphonopelma sp. (But Ive had those on the brain lately, so allTs are starting to look like them )

-JAson

 

[Inuleki]

i picked up a T that was labeled as a Rose Hair for 15.99 at a local shop who are normally pretty good about their T's.... yeah, it's definately a P. scrofa...... and a psychotic little demon beast at that... very very beautiful tho.... feeding instinct from hell....

 

[Poecilotheria]

Yep, i'd say red phase rosie, nice looking, haven't seen them anywhere in a while.
Steve

 

[skadiwolf]

i vote P. scrofa because of the toe area and the coloring. i wouldn't say it's a red phase G. rosea if it is one, which i don't believe it is.

it doesn't have any of the pinkish carapace coloring of a G. rosea and seems to be one uniform copper color which would definitely make it a P. scrofa.

still, nice T and supposedly they're fairly docile so hey, why not?

 

[Tangled WWWeb]

I agree with Steve on this one. It looks like a P. scrofa to me.

 

[Buspirone]

I would agree with P. scrofa but the abdomen doesn't look oblong enough.

 

[Godzilla2000]

To be honest....the color is a little more red in the picture than the T actually looks in person. It has a more star colored hue to it with a reddish opisthosoma. I don't think it's a P. scrofa because I already own one and from the patella down it's all black. But could it be possible she's a hybrid of some sort?

 

[Steve Nunn]

I would doubt it's a hybrid, my best guess is still P.scrofa, don't forget that color varies quite a bit among the theraphosids with large ranges, this species is no exception to that rule.

Cheers,
Steve

 

[WYSIWYG]

Originally posted by Godzilla2000
To be honest....the color is a little more red in the picture than the T actually looks in person. It has a more star colored hue to it with a reddish opisthosoma. I don't think it's a P. scrofa because I already own one and from the patella down it's all black. But could it be possible she's a hybrid of some sort?

If it's over 4 inches, it can't be a paraphysa species. I remember seeing a post a couple weeks ago about the paraphysa male that molted mature at way less than 3 inches.

Wysi

 

[MizM]

That looks EXACTLY like my BROWN phase rosie.

 

[MizM]

Originally posted by WYSIWYG
If it's over 4 inches, it can't be a paraphysa species. I remember seeing a post a couple weeks ago about the paraphysa male that molted mature at way less than 3 inches.

Wysi

That was me.... and they were selling it as a g. rosea. I thought it was a juvenile red phase.

I should have known, there is a distinct shape to the scrofa's opisthoma, and the legs are black at the tips. But it's a cool T anyway!

 

[Tangled WWWeb]

Originally posted by WYSIWYG
If it's over 4 inches, it can't be a paraphysa species. I remember seeing a post a couple weeks ago about the paraphysa male that molted mature at way less than 3 inches.

Wysi

Wysi,

Earlier in the thread she stated that the spider was only 2.5" to 3". That's definitely an obtainable size for P. scrofa. I'm not saying for sure that it is absolutely that species, but it doesn't look like a red phase G. rosea to me.

John

 

[WYSIWYG]

Originally posted by JP version 1.0
Wysi,

Earlier in the thread she stated that the spider was only 2.5" to 3". That's definitely an obtainable size for P. scrofa. I'm not saying for sure that it is absolutely that species, but it doesn't look like a red phase G. rosea to me.

John

Ah ok. I forgot to look at the original post again to see how big it was. :8o

Wysi

 

[Professor T]

Originally posted by skadiwolf
i vote P. scrofa because of the toe area and the coloring. i wouldn't say it's a red phase G. rosea if it is one, which i don't believe it is.

it doesn't have any of the pinkish carapace coloring of a G. rosea and seems to be one uniform copper color which would definitely make it a P. scrofa.

still, nice T and supposedly they're fairly docile so hey, why not?

skadiwolf,

Not all G. rosea have a pinkish carapace. It could be a P. scrofa , but I wouldn't say definitely. I'm not sure how to tell a red phase rosie from a Chilean copper from a picture.

As far as being docile, I've heard many stories of the evil temperament of the "red phase rosie", which could easily be mistaken for a Chilean copper.

I bet their are lots of misidentified P. scrofa giving the rosie a bad reputation in regards to temperament. Just my opinion. Peace and love.

Three different phases, or is the one on the right P. scrofa ?

3 Chilean rose hair phases, or a Chilean copper on the right?

 

[Godzilla2000]

Originally posted by JP version 1.0
Wysi,

Earlier in the thread she stated that the spider was only 2.5" to 3". That's definitely an obtainable size for P. scrofa. I'm not saying for sure that it is absolutely that species, but it doesn't look like a red phase G. rosea to me.

John

It could very well be a Juvenile with room to grow too. When I first saw it, her opisthosoma was straw colored and not bald. But when I saw her recently it was getting darker and going bald. Needless to say I'm still purchasing her from the petshop. I will keep you all posted as time progresses. As it stands, I do own a P. scrofa and she's much, much darker in coloration with an orangish sheen than the mystery Tarantula is. The mystery tarantula is a paisley straw color with red markings on her rump. She also has striation on her legs as well.

 

[Steve Nunn]

No mystery Nazzie, it's a P.scrofa. If you own Sam Marshall's book you'll see a photo of a P.manicata in it. P.manicata has been synonymised with P.scrofa, now have a look at that photo then compare to your P.scrofa. They are the same species, even though I'll bet they don't look exactly the same. Anyways, if you are buying this spider I think you'll see it's a P.scrofa when it molts.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Well it turns out the Mystery Spider is very male. If he is indeed a P. scrofa, since I have a female of that variety I might try to breed them. I'm just hoping he's still a young one though, because my P. scrofa female isn't quite mature.