My T ate for three consecutive days: Good or bad?

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Your GBB situation is gonna be a good reference for me 'cause I'm feeding my GBB sling the same as You, every day or two. Shes not looking fat and feels always hungry. Now I'm thinking about getting a bit diet for her... :p

Otherwise my Lasiodora Parahybana sling molted(today!) 4 days after she's last meal with really pumped abdomen...
Do not take my GBB as an absolute reference, maybe she'd like to stay a bit more in childhood :p
 

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Sure thing! I'm just gonna keep that in mind as an possible answer for a "premolt stuck" situation ;)
Yeah, I am just hoping that she wont stay in premolt for eternity, I'd like to see her grow before I pass away xD. But I'll slow down the feeding frequency, definately. Good luck with yours ;)
 

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2" isn't the adult size. Plus I've heard that gbb webs a lot which means that it's probably just dragging it's bottom on webbing at worst. Plus they grow fast. It sounds like an interesting T to get.
 

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They are opportunistic eaters. And, just like many other animals, including humans, if the opportunities present themselves, some will continue to eat.
I concur. To say humans will stop eating when they are full is laughable. Check out some obesity stats, or even easier and more graphic, go to a local mall and look around you. Heck, opportunity presenting itself? They strive for opportunities.
 
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I would also be curious in the case of a GBB, how much webbing uses up the food resources. Isn't spider silk protein based? It would make me think that a spider that webs a lot could eat more than a spider that doesn't?
 

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I would also be curious in the case of a GBB, how much webbing uses up the food resources. Isn't spider silk protein based? It would make me think that a spider that webs a lot could eat more than a spider that doesn't?
Mine is a sling as I said, but she kept webbing. I am seeing her making webs everyday for 5/10 minutes, then she goes back to procrastinate.

It's been 110 days she didn't eat, I'm amazed too ^^
 

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I might be wrong but I was feeding my gbb sling every day or two, she wasnt looking fat but now she's in "premolt" since 110 days. In opposite, i was feeding my juvenile chilobrachys once a week with a medium sized red runner, she molted 2 days after her last meal. Maybe feeding frequency does matter a lot when it comes to molt
It can...and here's why...every t needs X amount of time for its body to physically be ready to molt. Likewise every t has an amount of food intake it needs before molting (they can still molt without achieving this, but it greatly lengthens this time). As the t grows, it both requires more and more time, as well as a greater amount of food to plump.

So for example, a 3", say, GBB, may need a minimum of 4 months before its body is ready to molt....and it may require say, 20 medium sized crickets to plump its self to where its ready.

Now you could feed those 20 crickets every other day and have it plumped in 40 days....so now its body needs another 3 months basically before it is physically able to molt....leading to a long 3 nearly month fast.....or you could take those 20 crickets, feed one every 6 days, and it would take the whole cycle for the two things to match...leading to a t that eats right up to its molt. Both are growing at what would basically be maximum pace....one just fasted a lot more.

Moral of the story...heavy feeding=more and longer fasting.

Now if you feed at a slower pace, you can also increase this time as the t will be physically ready before being plumped....so a super slow feeding schedule does a lot more toward retarding growth, than a heavy feeding schedule does for accelerating growth. Temps also play a role, but for the sake of this we will assume the same temp for all groups.

Another thing to consider with adults, is that an obese t, comes through a molt, obese...but just as hungry. Which basically sets the t up for long term obesity....its easy to get a fat t...its much harder (and time consuming)to slim a fat t back down to a more suitable weight.

Slings are different...they put more into growth and molt with much greater frequency, so this isn't an issue...a fat sling isn't set up for obesity, it has a head start toward the next molt, and for a sling, can accelerate growth IME....you can't over-feed a sling...but you can an adult.

Now will the obese adult t die??...not necessarily, but dragging a fat abdomen around is a sad sight...and like @Formerphobe mentioned, it could very well be dangerous even without a fall.
 
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It can...and here's why...every t needs X amount of time for its body to physically be ready to molt. Likewise every t has an amount of food intake it needs before molting (they can still molt without achieving this, but it greatly lengthens this time). As the t grows, it both requires more and more time, as well as a greater amount of food to plump.

So for example, a 3", say, GBB, may need a minimum of 4 months before its body is ready to molt....and it may require say, 20 medium sized crickets to plump its self to where its ready.

Now you could feed those 20 crickets every other day and have it plumped in 40 days....so now its body needs another 3 months basically before it is physically able to molt....leading to a long 3 nearly month fast.....or you could take those 20 crickets, feed one every 6 days, and it would take the whole cycle for the two things to match...leading to a t that eats right up to its molt. Both are growing at what would basically be maximum pace....one just fasted a lot more.

Moral of the story...heavy feeding=more and longer fasting.

Now if you feed at a slower pace, you can also increase this time as the t will be physically ready before being plumped....so a super slow feeding schedule does a lot more toward retarding growth, than a heavy feeding schedule does for accelerating growth. Temps also play a role, but for the sake of this we will assume the same temp for all groups.

Another thing to consider with adults, is that an obese t, comes through a molt, obese...but just as hungry. Which basically sets the t up for long term obesity....its easy to get a fat t...its much harder (and time consuming)to slim a fat t back down to a more suitable weight.

Slings are different...they put more into growth and molt with much greater frequency, so this isn't an issue...a fat sling isn't set up for obesity, it has a head start toward the next molt, and for a sling, can accelerate growth IME....you can't over-feed a sling...but you can an adult.

Now will the obese adult t die??...not necessarily, but dragging a fat abdomen around is a sad sight...and like @Formerphobe mentioned, it could very well be dangerous even without a fall.
That's some interesting informations, thanks professor :D
 
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