Motley Butter Cornsnake?
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Very nice snake indeed!
Looks like a motley butter to me
My partner and I now have 6 snakes (all collected over the last 4 weeks - MUST STOP! lol) and we have: 1 anerythrystic (sp), 1 motley amelanistic, 1 striped amelanistic, 2 candy canes and 1 candy cane x motley.
They're all fab, and we had our first mass feeding session last night - seeing all these little fellas striking and guzzling was fantastic
Is that the only snake you have/first snake?
Hope you enjoy it!
Hels
Looks like a motley butter to me
My partner and I now have 6 snakes (all collected over the last 4 weeks - MUST STOP! lol) and we have: 1 anerythrystic (sp), 1 motley amelanistic, 1 striped amelanistic, 2 candy canes and 1 candy cane x motley.
They're all fab, and we had our first mass feeding session last night - seeing all these little fellas striking and guzzling was fantastic
Is that the only snake you have/first snake?
Hope you enjoy it!
Hels
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Ball pythons are absolutely fabulous, I got my little boy last August and he's been my baby ever since. My first snake too, if that says anything about how easy they are to keep if you ask around and do your research! (And you *do* need to do that, because while their needs aren't difficult, they are specific and if you don't set it up properly you are in for a nightmare of a time. )
I would advise a ball over a red-tail, if only because red-tails get BIG and before it's even full-grown (a 2-year-old might already be 8 feet long) you will no longer be able to handle it safely without at least one other person there to help you. The really massive snakes are capable of hurting or killing their owner, even by accident.
I got my ball, Rorschach, shipped from Zach at serpentpets.com, and recommend him wholeheartedly if you decide to get one. He kept in touch with me as long as I needed, helping me settle in and get over the early panic attacks of owning a brand new animal. I just checked there, and it looks like he's got at least one batch of ball hatchlings on the way for the coming year. His prices were pretty good, I think I paid $45 plus overnight shipping, which is still cheaper than the sickly balls at the pet stores.
)I would advise a ball over a red-tail, if only because red-tails get BIG and before it's even full-grown (a 2-year-old might already be 8 feet long) you will no longer be able to handle it safely without at least one other person there to help you. The really massive snakes are capable of hurting or killing their owner, even by accident.
I got my ball, Rorschach, shipped from Zach at serpentpets.com, and recommend him wholeheartedly if you decide to get one. He kept in touch with me as long as I needed, helping me settle in and get over the early panic attacks of owning a brand new animal.
I just checked there, and it looks like he's got at least one batch of ball hatchlings on the way for the coming year. His prices were pretty good, I think I paid $45 plus overnight shipping, which is still cheaper than the sickly balls at the pet stores. Oh boy - did you ask for it! Always happy to show the kids offPA7R1CK said:Very nice collection! This is my first snake. I'm looking to expand my collection soon though. I think my next is going to be a ball python or a red tail boa. I would love to see some pics of your snakes if you can upload them.
My other half owns Valkyrie, Brian and Clifford, just so he doesn't get upset with me for not mentioning him What's your butter called?
Here's Valkyrie (Anery) and Dante (Motley amel, and Dante coz he looks like fire
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Then we've got Saffron (striped) and Gwendolyn (candy cane) sitting and hanging out
And last but not least, Brian (top - motley x candy cane) and Clifford (candy cane)
Not the best pic of the boys - that was them just before feeding
Your snake looks lovely - I missed out on a beautiful butter last weekend, only brought home the striped and the three candys - only went for one
More pics of yours please!
Hels
Sorry the pics are huge....
Here are a few pics! I was also wondering do you think the flash will cause stress to the snake? It's an albino as you know and its eyes are sensitive.
Also Hels if you need a really good image resizer program I could sent it too you though aim or email. Btw I love the pictures of your snakes! Your pictures have inspired me to go look for a candy cane next, if not a boa Also I have not yet come up with a name for my butter, it hasnt been probed yet and im not sure of the gender.
I was also wondering do you think the flash will cause stress to the snake? It's an albino as you know and its eyes are sensitive.
Also Hels if you need a really good image resizer program I could sent it too you though aim or email. Btw I love the pictures of your snakes! Your pictures have inspired me to go look for a candy cane next, if not a boa
Also I have not yet come up with a name for my butter, it hasnt been probed yet and im not sure of the gender.
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Beautiful pics! I do have a soft spot for motleys as Dante was my first bless him
We're only really sure on the sex of our Anery as the others are small like yours, but we've just guessed
We're trying to minimize the amount of pics we take because of the flash - can't be nice for a night time creature!
Thanks for the offer Patrick - I think I'm just a dunce on pics - I should get my other half to teach me properly! If he doesn't manage, I'll give you a shout cheers
When will you be feeding yours, or have you already? It's fascinating to see
Hels
We're only really sure on the sex of our Anery as the others are small like yours, but we've just guessed
We're trying to minimize the amount of pics we take because of the flash - can't be nice for a night time creature!
Thanks for the offer Patrick - I think I'm just a dunce on pics - I should get my other half to teach me properly! If he doesn't manage, I'll give you a shout cheers
When will you be feeding yours, or have you already? It's fascinating to see
Hels
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TRUE redtails (Boa constrictor constrictor) may reach 8 feet with regularity, but certainly not in two years. Some of the bigger BCC types such as Peruvians are known to get rather large (10-13 feet for females), but a "petstore" red tail boa (99% of the time the more common Boa constrictor imperator) will only get past 8 feet in YEARS, if at all... 10 ft BCI are rare.Mushroom Spore said:I would advise a ball over a red-tail, if only because red-tails get BIG and before it's even full-grown (a 2-year-old might already be 8 feet long) you will no longer be able to handle it safely without at least one other person there to help you. The really massive snakes are capable of hurting or killing their owner, even by accident.
Now, Burmese or Reticulated pythons will get to 8 feet in two years no problem, but these are even less suitable second snakes than the redtail.
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Heh, sorry. I'm not familiar with the specifics of red-tails myself, so I hit Google for a care sheet so I'd at least try to know what I was talking about. Looks like Ms. Kaplan is a bit off.Mister Internet said:
Regardless. Ball pythons still rock! Get one!
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Depending on who you ask in the reptile world, Ms. Kaplan is off on a lot of things... No problem... I just got my first redtail (BCI) myself, so I'm on the tail end of all the research process...
No problem... I just got my first redtail (BCI) myself, so I'm on the tail end of all the research process... I would love to get a ball python or a redtail boa I fed my motley last nite for the first time since I got it. I didnt want to take to many pictures because I did not want to disturb it while it was eating.
Thawing frozen pinkie
Introducing the pinkie into the tank
mmmm pinkie there it goes
I fed my motley last nite for the first time since I got it. I didnt want to take to many pictures because I did not want to disturb it while it was eating.Thawing frozen pinkie
Introducing the pinkie into the tank
mmmm pinkie
there it goes
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Ack ack ack, you need to not feed the snake on loose substrate like that! There's a risk some of the stuff will get eaten along with the mouse, which can have very bad results.
You're probably better off taking that little rubbermaid in your first pic, poking some ventilation holes in the lid, and also using it as a feeding box.
(What substrate are you using, by the way?)
You're probably better off taking that little rubbermaid in your first pic, poking some ventilation holes in the lid, and also using it as a feeding box.
(What substrate are you using, by the way?)
I watched it eat it and luckily no loose substrate got eaten. The stuff is called aspen bedding and litter. I made sure there was nothing cedar or pine in it.Mushroom Spore said:Ack ack ack, you need to not feed the snake on loose substrate like that! There's a risk some of the stuff will get eaten along with the mouse, which can have very bad results.
You're probably better off taking that little rubbermaid in your first pic, poking some ventilation holes in the lid, and also using it as a feeding box.
(What substrate are you using, by the way?)
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Oh good, I was worried about it not being aspen, you'd be amazed how many people still don't know the other wood types can be toxic.PA7R1CK said:
I wouldn't trust eyesight alone for preventing substrate-eating for long, just to be safe--especially with shavings as small as those. If you aren't comfortable with a feeding box for whatever reason, a nice wide tupperware lid set in the enclosure can serve as a "plate" and should be almost as good (though feeding in the tank can sometimes result in the snake thinking anything happening in there means food, and it might get snappy).
Had to do the "plate" thing for my ball python for a while, when he stopped wanting to eat right away in his feeding box and sometimes took all night to get up the courage to strike. He was living on reptile carpet at the time, which can't be ingested, but I didn't want dead mouse bacteria getting into things.
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That is a very pretty little corn PA7R1CK. oh, and Happy Birthday!
The feeder box is a good idea, that is what I do for our little guy so he doesn't swallow anything he should not.
The feeder box is a good idea, that is what I do for our little guy so he doesn't swallow anything he should not.
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But you don't need to change it, aspen is fine (as long as they don't swallow it, heh). :?PA7R1CK said:
Morning Patrick! We did the same with our first - didn't know to take her out of the viv for feeding!
The other thing taking them out of the tank does is associate being in that specific place for feeding - our original two know immediately what's going on when they go in there - so that your hand going into the viv doesn't signal food - that could make them snappy.
Great stuff that he's a good feeder though!
We went to a pound shop to get some cheap tupperware type tubs to feed ours in - Sunday night was quite a production with 6 snakes to deal with! 5 of them on 2 small food items and one on a hefty fluff - kept my other half on the go!
Good news was the four newbies were all good eaters - one had a pathetic 1st strike but she picked up when the second pinkie was introduced!
I expect others will confirm for me - we've been advised to thaw food in a plastic bag which goes into the warm water - some say this keeps food smelling of food, others say it stops them getting wet and soggy - just a thought? Although yours had no probs
The Kathy and Bill Love Corn Snakes book is great for care tips - if you haven't got it it's well worth a read! And you can always come on here for advice.
If there's anything you think I might be able to help with, drop me a mail.
Keep enjoying that gorgeous snake!
Hels
The other thing taking them out of the tank does is associate being in that specific place for feeding - our original two know immediately what's going on when they go in there - so that your hand going into the viv doesn't signal food - that could make them snappy.
Great stuff that he's a good feeder though!
We went to a pound shop to get some cheap tupperware type tubs to feed ours in - Sunday night was quite a production with 6 snakes to deal with! 5 of them on 2 small food items and one on a hefty fluff - kept my other half on the go!
Good news was the four newbies were all good eaters - one had a pathetic 1st strike but she picked up when the second pinkie was introduced!
I expect others will confirm for me - we've been advised to thaw food in a plastic bag which goes into the warm water - some say this keeps food smelling of food, others say it stops them getting wet and soggy - just a thought? Although yours had no probs
The Kathy and Bill Love Corn Snakes book is great for care tips - if you haven't got it it's well worth a read! And you can always come on here for advice.
If there's anything you think I might be able to help with, drop me a mail.
Keep enjoying that gorgeous snake!
Hels
Morning Hels!
Thanks for the advice I will be sure to take it out of the tank for feeding. Next time you feed be sure to get pics I would love to see some! I actually do have a book by Kathy and Bill Love, called "Corn Snakes The Comprehensive Owners Guide" Great book
I do have a queston though. At the size your snakes are at how often do you feed them and how many pinkies do you feed them?
Patrick
Thanks for the advice I will be sure to take it out of the tank for feeding. Next time you feed be sure to get pics I would love to see some!
I actually do have a book by Kathy and Bill Love, called "Corn Snakes The Comprehensive Owners Guide" Great book I do have a queston though. At the size your snakes are at how often do you feed them and how many pinkies do you feed them?
Patrick