Mexico Brachypelma distribution map

[cityzooguy]

thanks

cool map!!:clap:
does anyone have a distribution map "collection" they would care to share?

 

[ftorres]

Thankyou for allowing the community to use your diagram. I fixed up the wiki page for B.smithi recently, and have corrected the existing taxonomy information on the main genus page. A distribution map there would be informative. I would also like to use this map for future presentations, with your permission - its prettier than an equivalent one i made!!

I asked about EOL as i am a moderator there, but i rarely made annotations there yet - i just see the value of your diagram to that webpage also.

Now, RE: "I was trying to draw boundaries as close as possible relative to the borders of states".. I think you mean you were using the state boundaries as guides where to draw species boundaries? (i hope not try and draw species boundaries onto state boundaries - as species don't reognise state boundaries!). My point is that the original Locht paper shows that B.smithi extends its range into Colima state, which current information also agrees with . (for example a recent DVD by andrew smith)


Then RE: "B. pallidum isn't indicated as a junior synonym of B. verdezi in Platnick's Catalog. Is this a recent change?"
Its not in Platnick's catalog as its not an official taxonomy change, but the change did happen. Trust me on this information, that is B.verdezi now. Roughly, the problem is that this species 'B.pallidum' was sold in the european pettrade AS Brachypelma pallidum during the late 1990s/early 2000. This was before Schmidt 2003 described it as B. verdezi. It never officially had the name B.pallidum (that name was just incorrectly given by people who never did any real taxonomy, it was just like a pettrade name - so no need to officially change it - therefore no reference by Dr platnick).

On the map the 'B.palldum' corresponds to the real distribution of B.verdezi. 100% fact., and this species used to be sold in the trade as 'B.palldum' . The species Brachypelma pallidum never formally existed.
(Fyi, If you are re-checking platnick, you will see that pallidum is a valid species of Aphonopelma, and a junior synonym of Brachypelma albiceps, those are valid changes at the moment, and justifiably listed in Platnick. )

RE: "I hope one of the Brachypelma systematists will post a more inclusive map some day." I would love to know how to publish such a map and mark on the areas of sympatry so they are legible. The fear about producing such a map is that then it leaves the species open for renewed exploitation for the petrade - i hope people here can understand WHY such knowledge is not widely available. Locht may have put some of these species at risk again by publishing this data back in 1999, but thankfully exploitation remains minimal, mostly thanks to captive breeding in Europe/USA.

Hello All,

Nice map and great material to this and other forums.

Mexico now has strickter regulations and has even stablished special places with the solely job of reproducing Brachypelma species for the Mexican and Global hobby.

In Mexico every Brachypelma purchased at stores or UMAS as they call them has to have a receipt or permit if you wish, to confirm that this animal has been raised and breed in captivity.

I seen cases on where private colelctions were confiscated for not being able to supply with the propper paper work.

Many locations are kept quiet mainly because of fear of clandestine capture of these species

regards

francisco

 

[UrbanJungles]

I've persoanlly found B. vagans higher north in the Yucatan peninsula than this range map would indicate.

 

[elportoed]

Good info thanks!

Note to self, next time in Puerto Vallarta, go see B klaasi in natural habitat.

 

[Sathane]

Thanks! This will help out alot when planning my trip to Mexico.

 

[metallica]

I've persoanlly found B. vagans higher north in the Yucatan peninsula than this range map would indicate.

why could it not be B. epicureanum you found?

 

[TEX Darryl]

Very cool map!!!!!

 

[MrCrackerpants]

Thanks so much. A very nice job. : )

 

[TEX Darryl]

bump...................................................................

 

[metallica]

Bump? bump for what? if anyone wants to know about brachypelma distribution they can just look it up with the search-button.

one link i would like to share is: www.mantid.nl it deals with Brachypelma in the wild.