mexican Diplocentrid ID

[pandinus]

just got back from a trip to cozumel mexico. brought a handful of stuff back with me. And not even smuggled!! I declared them at customs and got cleared! anyway, there are two distinct sp. that i caught. both are as far as i can tell some sort of diplocentrus or closely related species. i havent been able to subdue one well enough to check for tarsal spurs yet. can anyone help me out?

Scorp spp A:

Scorp spp B:

 

[pandinus]

anybody?

 

[Gsc]

They look pretty cool John...sorry I'm not much help on ID'ing stuff....

 

[pandinus]

no problem. I guess i'm just going to label them as Diplocentrus spp. for now.

 

[TheNothing]

no idea either
but
that metasoma looks wicked!

 

[G. Carnell]

those are very very nice scorps...


youll have to wait for Chad to get back to you on this one!
i think these are his speciality??

 

[carpe scorpio]

John, beautiful scorpions!, I have no idea what species, but I'm glad you had a fruitful trip. Congratulations on getting them back here.

 

[redhourglass]

Hi John.

Great pictures as always !

Man you are very brave to bring those back to the states. I won't dwell into the legalities of it as this is an ID thread.

However you and we all know the rant about determining a species identification from pictures...can't do it respectively.

The two characters one has to look at is the tarsomere II spinal formula and trichobothria placement in the pedipalps esp on the chela.

Here is a pdf available about the Yucatan peninsula and actually am very surprised it is still available online over the years.->Click<-. Download maybe slow. I have reference number eight and this is what I'll go by for suggestions on an tentative ID.

They don't look like D. mitchelli nor D. anophthalmus ("troglobites") which leaves D. taibeli (large species) or D. maya (medium species) or D. reddelli (small species). This is all I can provide with the literature I have at the moment but even some of the professionals in the taxonomic circles won't touch them unless adult males and females are provided in an diagnoses or what not.

Contact Alex T. for I remember he had Diplocentrus from Belize so as to compare photos. Alex ???

Best Wishes.

Sinc. Chad

P.S. Sorry John but I have to ask the board members while this is still on topic but does anyone know of any recent species descriptions the last few years? Please PM me or post here. Thanks !