M. Cobocla (Brazilian Redhead)

[AntrozousPallidus]

I just got an adult male Bumba cobocla (Brazilian Redhead) and I'm having trouble finding specific info on how to care for him. Any tips? Especially about temperature and humidity.

 

[Bugmom]

There's no much info on these. But from my own experience and others: Enough substrate to burrow, and boy do they ever if given the option. Moisten half the substrate but don't let it get swampy. Generally laid back temperament, though mine is a bit skittish.

Temps, eh. Same as 95% of others: If you're fine, they're fine.

I think these are beautiful, and I'm surprised more don't have them. I suspect it's because they look too close to a true spider, lacking the heavy bodies of a terrestrial T but neither a long and lean body of an arboreal. Which makes them even more interesting to me. Those huge butts with the spindly legs makes for one interesting looking spider. Enjoy!

 

[Quixtar]

What I do for any species that lacks care information is to look up their geographic range and Google some information about the environment, temperature, and humidity of the region. However, there really isn't much need in terms of monitoring strict temperature and humidity ranges for the different species since most fare just fine with similar setups. Just make sure you're not making it overly moist for a dry/arid species or too dry for a humid species.

 

[gypsy cola]

My LPS couldn't tell me much about this species. Just that they got it from a breeder, these are not easy to come by, and somewhat new to the hobby. Just gentle, gorgeous spiders with the average care of most south american terrestrials.

Mine has molted 3 times in the one year I have had mine. For a while I thought I got scammed and thought I just picked up a random spider. They don't look like regular T's. Mine has built a complex tunnel system in its closure and I keep it somewhat humid. There isn't a reason why I keep mine that humid though. Very hardy spiders from what I can tell.

 

[Bugmom]

The type species Bumba cabocla (Pérez-Miles 2000), comb. n. is so far recorded solely for the type locality, Maracá Island, State of Roraima northern Brazilian Amazonia.

All specimens from Estação Científica Ferreira Penna, FLONA Caxiuanã were collected in pit-fall traps used for herpetological surveys or in nocturnal manual searching, in both flooded and dry areas.

http://zookeys.pensoft.net/articles.php?id=4166​

Maraca, Brazil, is a large riverine island which is at the boundary between lowland evergreen rain forest and savanna. The island is now uninhabited but there is evidence that much of its forest (including the plots described in this paper) is secondary, dating from before 1880. 2. The mean annual rainfall is about 2300 mm and there is a dry season from October to March. 3.
Ecological Studies on a Lowland Evergreen Rain Forest on Maraca Island, Roraima, Brazil. I. Physical Environment, Forest Structure and Leaf Chemistry. Available from: https://www.researchgate.net/public...vironment_Forest_Structure_and_Leaf_Chemistry [accessed Jan 5, 2016].​

I think I'm going to do a video on B. cabocla as it seems I answer a "how do I care for them" question once or twice a week these days. From the looks of the ecology, we should keep the enclosure slightly wetter in March-September. It's a humid island though, so I wouldn't suggest using just a water dish.

I will say that prior to recently, I kept mine on dry substrate, and sprayed once every 7-10 days. Oops But at least I had it right half the year But the article does say they were found in both flooded and dry areas, so what exactly that means for keeping B. cabocla happy in captivity, I don't know.

 

[JoeRossi]

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/maraca-cabocla.205219/

Above is my breeding report on the species. Feel free and pm me if you have any other specific questions as they are one of my favorite species. Then again I have many favorite species lol.

This specie is almost bullet proof and prefers it on the dry side. Often hanging out, but can use a hide, and enjoys a rain shower now and then so moisten one side of the cage. Let it moisten the substrate and then allow to dry out. Water dish is good and beneficial when it gets on the drier side.

Hope this helps as I have raised a few and they are an awesome specie.

Current breeding and it's conditions:

 

[Bugmom]

Mine did fine on dry substrate and the weekly spraying. I don't know if that was the best thing for it though. I just ran across this discussion. This behavior, to me, shows that they may like it a little more humid, but it is just one report of one sling doing this: http://arachnoboards.com/threads/ap...-a-water-dish-says.270494/page-2#post-2338354

For what it's worth, since I upped the amount of humidity in the enclosure, my cabocla is a lot more active.

Begs the question of if captive bred slings need the "native habitat" replication to the same extent as wild caught specimens, and if so, is it the first generation of CB slings? Second? Third? How many generations would it take to change the care requirements for a species, if at all possible? Should we even try to force adaptations like that? (That's a rhetorical question as it's an ethical dilemma I don't want to get into.)

 

[cold blood]

They don't go through biological changes because of where they are bred. CB or WC, they are physiologically the same animal.

 

[Angel Minkov]

WC animals are used to their native weather conditions and as such need them to live a proper life in captivity. It's much easier to care for CB slings, juvies and adults. No conditioning needed, no shocks to care for. The only time I'd buy a WC animal is if I need a pure bloodline or if it's a very expensive species as CB.

 

[EDED]

people, its not like you are adopting a SE asian kid or african kid and raising him/her in cold ass Wisconsin where cold blood is from lol
and feeding him/her mcdonalds and pizza. He/she will be fine to that adaptation, there are gloves and coats and pepto

CB or WC, they will not be able to adapt to drastically different condition. These are bugs. Codes are built into their primitive genes.

then how come there are so called 'hard to breed' spiders in the hobby? should be very easy if no conditioning is needed after its born inside a plastic terrarium?

there was a thread on M. mesomelas. Some were dead against keeping it because it will die eventually. why? it's CB slings? all good right??

certain species maybe 'dumb' or 'hardy' enough to never need any temp / humidity fluctuations.
but some other species will definitely need it to thrive.

Expect snow tarantula photos in a month or so I will be forcefully having them adapt to snow and ice skating

bugmom, i dont think you will be able to selectively breed humidity resistant or dry resistant (for example) of any T species.

 

[Bugmom]

bugmom, i dont think you will be able to selectively breed humidity resistant or dry resistant (for example) of any T species.

That's what I figure. I was just musing because the climate these guys are from is humid, but you have keepers like Joe saying they keep them on dry substrate and only moisten every now and then. If we go by their climate, right now is not the rainy season, so we would keep them less moist...? See where I'm going with this?

 

[gypsy cola]

Do the MM of this species hook out?

 

[JoeRossi]

Do the MM of this species hook out?

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/m-cobocla-brazilian-redhead.279919/#post-2426662

 

[gypsy cola]

http://arachnoboards.com/threads/m-cobocla-brazilian-redhead.279919/#post-2426662

I feel stupid now... won't be able to even for a while

 

[Bugmom]

So remember how I referenced that thread about one keeper's cabocla covering up it's vent holes up there in reply #7? Yeah... guess what mind did last night.... That exact thing. For funsies I added a new vent hole and am watching to see if she shores substrate up against that one too. If so, I think it's a good sign that she is definitely saying to me, "Hey idiot, more humidity!"

I will report back with my findings FOR SCIENCE!

 

[EDED]

I am purposely drying/cooling my schmidti and hainanum juvies and adults
within days at 67F and open top (I can switch out the sliding top with 100% screen or 50% holes made with soldering iron)
they have started dig and webbed the entrance.

let me us know if your cabocla changes structure and behavior just from adding humidity. no messing with temperature though! haha

 

[Bugmom]

She did it! Took her 8-10 hours to notice the new vent hole and shore substrate up against it.

She's going to be super fun to ventilate if she keeps this up.

Edited to add photos from this morning showing how she plugged those vent holes (you can see the new one I added) . Also, she's never borrowed. She's always done this ditch around the perimeter. This is her second or third enclosure. Same story every time.