So? Do Your spiders like fruit?
Lycosa Tarantula
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yes, not eating is common, and normal
feeding the small ones, they will eventualy leave the mothers back, at this time they are ready to eat, pinhead crickets, fruit flies, or fresh dead insect parts will often work well.
feeding the small ones, they will eventualy leave the mothers back, at this time they are ready to eat, pinhead crickets, fruit flies, or fresh dead insect parts will often work well.
Does anyone have some advice on humidity for Hogna Radiata when molting?How much and how to keep it without some kind of fogger or some other device?
Slings are about to have their second(I think) molt but I have a big problem keeping the humidity above 50%! I am misting every day but it doesn't last more than few hours.
Slings are about to have their second(I think) molt but I have a big problem keeping the humidity above 50%! I am misting every day but it doesn't last more than few hours.
Loptylop
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wow they grow so fast 
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I think it needs to be moved from hogna, and placed in Lycosa. Hogna in the old world? no way!
Anyway, lol.. I'd imagine the care to be no different from any other wolves. Dryish substrate, but not too dry, ya know mist it every now and then.
Anyway, lol.. I'd imagine the care to be no different from any other wolves. Dryish substrate, but not too dry, ya know mist it every now and then.
Yes,there is a lot of misinformation online so I really don't know the correct name for the species but whenever I type Hogna Radiata in google pictures of my(like my) spider come up...
The substrate is really dry and I mist every day to keep the humidity above 50% because I am expecting for the slings to molt soon...
The substrate is really dry and I mist every day to keep the humidity above 50% because I am expecting for the slings to molt soon...
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It's really not that simple at all, and actually no, from the true taxonomical point of view its the other way around: Hogna in the New World? No way.
As a matter of fact, the genus Hogna is from the Old World, and the type species is, in fact, Hogna radiata a Mediterranean species. All of the nearctic species of "Hogna" are most probably misplaced and are in need of a revision, and some changes have already been applied (see Rabidosa and the most recent Tigrosa).
Here is just a small part of the abstract of the recent revision of this genus in the US:
"Comparisons made between Hogna, as defined by the type species H. radiata, Latreille 1817, and Tigrosa, as defined in this paper, demonstrate distinct differences in dorsal color pattern, structure of the epigynum, dimensions of the eye rows, color pattern of the venter and habitat preferences."
You should read this article, where the author also suggests that most probably no lycosids present in the US are to be assigned to the genus Hogna.
Same thing with Lycosa, which is again an Old World genus with the type species being Lycosa tarantula. Unfortunately, Lycosa has been used as a "dump genus" for quite some time in the past and presently this genus contains a whole lot of species throughout the world which have nothing to do with the real Lycosa, including most of the Hogna species from the US (which, like Hogna, must be defined in the European sense). Some authors consider all american species assigned to Lycosa to be misplaced, once more. Another example comes from Australia, where most of the "Lycosa" have been moved to the australian-only Hoggicosa.
In other words, both Lycosa and Hogna (Old World genera) are strongly polyphyletic when considering all the species worldwide.
So no, Hogna radiata doesn't need to be moved to the "true" Lycosa. It was rightly moved from this genus, where it was initally described back in 1817 when it was used for all European lycosids, including today's Arctosa, Pardosa, Pirata ecc.
For markowolf: You shouldn't be surprised that pictures of your spider come up when you google "Hogna radiata", since it is Hogna radiata. It is a very well known, extremely common mediterranean lycosid.
As a matter of fact, the genus Hogna is from the Old World, and the type species is, in fact, Hogna radiata a Mediterranean species. All of the nearctic species of "Hogna" are most probably misplaced and are in need of a revision, and some changes have already been applied (see Rabidosa and the most recent Tigrosa).
Here is just a small part of the abstract of the recent revision of this genus in the US:
"Comparisons made between Hogna, as defined by the type species H. radiata, Latreille 1817, and Tigrosa, as defined in this paper, demonstrate distinct differences in dorsal color pattern, structure of the epigynum, dimensions of the eye rows, color pattern of the venter and habitat preferences."
You should read this article, where the author also suggests that most probably no lycosids present in the US are to be assigned to the genus Hogna.
Same thing with Lycosa, which is again an Old World genus with the type species being Lycosa tarantula. Unfortunately, Lycosa has been used as a "dump genus" for quite some time in the past and presently this genus contains a whole lot of species throughout the world which have nothing to do with the real Lycosa, including most of the Hogna species from the US (which, like Hogna, must be defined in the European sense). Some authors consider all american species assigned to Lycosa to be misplaced, once more. Another example comes from Australia, where most of the "Lycosa" have been moved to the australian-only Hoggicosa.
In other words, both Lycosa and Hogna (Old World genera) are strongly polyphyletic when considering all the species worldwide.
So no, Hogna radiata doesn't need to be moved to the "true" Lycosa. It was rightly moved from this genus, where it was initally described back in 1817 when it was used for all European lycosids, including today's Arctosa, Pardosa, Pirata ecc.
For markowolf: You shouldn't be surprised that pictures of your spider come up when you google "Hogna radiata", since it is Hogna radiata. It is a very well known, extremely common mediterranean lycosid.
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To be honest I really didn't know the species untill You pointed that out... Then I started collecting data online and pictures were matching Hogna Radiata name...
Also,this is my first serious project with wolf spiders... I had them before but I really didn't care what they were called.
Also,this is my first serious project with wolf spiders... I had them before but I really didn't care what they were called.