Live S. polymorpha (and other inverts) on ebay!?!

[SonsofArachne]

Am I the last one to know about this? Back when I used to buy and sell on ebay live animals were forbidden. When did they change the rules? here's the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Live-Tiger...400796?hash=item1a6919139c:g:jtoAAOSwEfVcCz~L

 

[chanda]

Ebay rules still prohibit selling live animals, but they have some exceptions, including "crickets, worms, or other herbivorous insects as long as they're intended to be used for bait or food for pets." A lot of people will sell insects (or other inverts) under the guise that they are "feeders" - even when they clearly are not.

See, for example, this listing for White-spot Assassin bugs: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Assassin-B...ean-Up-Crew-Insect-Vivarium-Real/323648983361 that includes the phrase "Per Ebay Policy these are being sold as feeders wnat you decide to do with them after delivery is your choice."

I see that the guy selling the centipedes isn't even bothering to make that much of an effort. I guess he just figures that ebay is such a big place, with so many vendors and listings, that he is unlikely to get caught.

 

[SonsofArachne]

A lot of people will sell insects (or other inverts) under the guise that they are "feeders" - even when they clearly are not.

I should have known. Whenever there's a rule, someone will bend it, break it, or use it to their advantage.

 

[REEFSPIDER]

Heh... I'm glad someone else noticed the ad because other day (a month ago or so) my significant other told me i wasn't allowed any new invert purchases at the time, to which I said to her "i bet i could find a pede on eBay" this was a complete whim statement and I had no clue whether or not there was in fact pedes on eBay, but to my surprise there was!

 

[RTTB]

I’ve seen Hottentata and a Leiurus q.. scorpions for sale on eBay as well very recently. A Fed Ex option isn’t being offered either so double whammy. Will lead to trouble.

 

[Jurdon]

See, for example, this listing for White-spot Assassin bugs: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Assassin-B...ean-Up-Crew-Insect-Vivarium-Real/323648983361 that includes the phrase "Per Ebay Policy these are being sold as feeders wnat you decide to do with them after delivery is your choice."

not gonna lie i laughed at this. “Clean Up Crew”, what are Platymeris possibly cleaning up?? the other inhabitants of an enclosure? not a bad price for 3 nymphs though.

 

[Polenth]

I got my pill millipedes from ebay as "feeders". In fairness, they could be fed to something, but are so slow breeding it'd be ridiculous.

 

[mantisfan101]

The only “clean-up crew” that I think a platymeris colony would work for would be a suspiciously recently deceased T or scorpion.

 

[REEFSPIDER]

I got my pill millipedes from ebay as "feeders". In fairness, they could be fed to something, but are so slow breeding it'd be ridiculous.

Killapede

• REEFSPIDER
• Sep 18, 2018
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This is a larviform female glow worm beetle. Phengodes arizonensis, it completely obliterated a...

This thing only consumes millipedes though if i had polydesmids i wouldn't be feeding them off

 

[Schledog]

LOL I clicked the link and I saw thishttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Live-Stag-Beetle-Prosopocoilus-giraffa-keisukei-L2-L3-Larvae/382772345603?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D06784dd32d2d4b368e647fb339c5134a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D323648983361%26itm%3D382772345603&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
technically its not illegal cause its in california.

 

[Schledog]

UPDATE: They have a TON of stag beetles I really want. Geez darn californians with their good sports teams and legal stag beetles. smh

 

[dord]

Holy crap, phasmids too. I feel like I just discovered the invert black market...

 

[Patherophis]

There is snake Scolecophis atrocinctus which is specialised centipede hunter, there are some in the hobby and Scolopendra spp. are used as feeders for them. So technically I dont see problem here.

 

[silveralex]

I bought millipedes from ebay.

 

[Bob Lee]

You can find giant African land snails on eBay, and a lot of them would ship internationally without caring about the law...

 

[SonsofArachne]

You can find giant African land snails on eBay, and a lot of them would ship internationally without caring about the law...

Phasmids and beetles from inside the US are one thing. As much as would like a giant African land snail, brown boxing a animal that is illegal to own in the US is just asking for trouble.

 

[VolkswagenBug]

Ebay rules still prohibit selling live animals, but they have some exceptions, including "crickets, worms, or other herbivorous insects as long as they're intended to be used for bait or food for pets." A lot of people will sell insects (or other inverts) under the guise that they are "feeders" - even when they clearly are not.

See, for example, this listing for White-spot Assassin bugs: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Assassin-B...ean-Up-Crew-Insect-Vivarium-Real/323648983361 that includes the phrase "Per Ebay Policy these are being sold as feeders wnat you decide to do with them after delivery is your choice."

I see that the guy selling the centipedes isn't even bothering to make that much of an effort. I guess he just figures that ebay is such a big place, with so many vendors and listings, that he is unlikely to get caught.

This is absolutely hilarious tbh

 

[The Mantis Menagerie]

LOL I clicked the link and I saw thishttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Live-Stag-Beetle-Prosopocoilus-giraffa-keisukei-L2-L3-Larvae/382772345603?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3D06784dd32d2d4b368e647fb339c5134a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D323648983361%26itm%3D382772345603&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
technically its not illegal cause its in california.

UPDATE: They have a TON of stag beetles I really want. Geez darn californians with their good sports teams and legal stag beetles. smh

The legality of Lucanidae in California thing is a myth. The USDA regulations restrict them on the national level and therefore supersede any California regulation.