Liphistius malayanus/murphyorum venom

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anyone know if these are highly venomous or not?with the size of these trapdoors and some of the other more dangerous traps out there im wondering how hot these are.thanks
-chris
 

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Not hot at all. IIRC, they don't possess venom glands.
 

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David's right, they are NOT dangerous whatsoever as far as venom goes.

But, David, are you sure they don't have venom glands or just the venom ducts through their chelicera to deliver the venom from their glands. This is what I had read, but I'd like to know for sure...
 

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But, David, are you sure they don't have venom glands or just the venom ducts through their chelicera to deliver the venom from their glands. This is what I had read, but I'd like to know for sure...
I'm not completely sure, Jordan. Wikipedia mentions that they lack a venom gland and duct but then again, Wikipedia isn't infallible. Do you know of any lit on the Mesothelae that's available online? I need to read something besides message board stuff (not that that stuff is bad or anything :D) before I get any.
 

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As I have posted before


Toxin Reviews (formerly Journal of Toxicology: Toxin Reviews)

Mesothelae do not have any toxicological interest as venom glands are lacking
 

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As I have posted before


Toxin Reviews (formerly Journal of Toxicology: Toxin Reviews)

Mesothelae do not have any toxicological interest as venom glands are lacking
It looks like the paper that actually came from is:

Haupt, J. (2004). The Mesothelae - a monograph of an exceptional group of spiders (Araneae: Mesothelae). Zoologica 154:8

Anyone happen to know where I could beg, borrow, or steal a copy? :D
 
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