Latin Pronunciation: Help please!

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Bymainiella: bi-may-nee-ell-ah

foelschei: fol-sky
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[Steve Nunn]

You win Bill (close as anyone will ever get anyway) I'll sort out getting a couple to you.

The pronunciation was as perfect as could be and the explanation was correct. The genus Bymainiella was named after Dr Barbara York Main and although the name is latinized, whether you pronounce it as bi-main-eela or bee-why-main-eela, both would be correct, following the patronym.

S.foelschei was named after the collector Peter Foelsche and is pronounced foel-shee, has nothing nearer to do with Latin, Greek, or anything like that, even though the name was latinized.

Steve

 

[FryLock]

LOL Steve I would not have held you to that if you had not replied you know , but so long as you don't have to put out for postage i will remain guilt free .

 

[Stoic]

what I don't understand is how someone *cough*stoic*cough* can keep prattering on about Latin pronunciations when it has been made perfectly clear more than once in this thread that NOT ALL of these scientific names are purely Latin OR Greek based (or even an amalgam). Once you factor that in, the pronunciation rules of Latin are generally useless (to a degree) imho. Once we get everyone using scientific names fluently and common names are pretty much a thing of the past...then I think we can maybe worry about correct pronunciation.

Your viewpoint is somewhat correct, but backwards from mine.

My argument is, quite simply, why not pronounce ALL names, regardless of their origin, as latin?

This totally eliminates any possibility of mispronunciation, which in turn makes "scientific" names more accessable to the masses (myself included).

I don't believe we can ever get people "using scientific names fluently" until we simplify the pronunciation to include less than two languages. Until this happens, common names will continue to be common.

Now pronounce this one correctly for me in Latin...

You said to pronounce it in LATIN. I did. And now you say I'm wrong because it is not of latin origin? I don't understand where your logic is with this. Anything CAN be pronounced in ANY language. If you were not asking for latin, you should not have said so.


Stoic

 

[Steve Nunn]

You said to pronounce it in LATIN. I did.

No you did not, you were incorrect, I gave the correct pronunciation. Are you beginning to see why what you are saying would be impossible to do??

And now you say I'm wrong because it is not of latin origin? I don't understand where your logic is with this. Anything CAN be pronounced in ANY language. If you were not asking for latin, you should not have said so.

I'm saying you were wrong in your strict sense of how we "should" be pronouncing in Latin You were incorrect, so, unless you're willing to be schooled on how to correctly pronounce a dead language, even you cannot get a simple epitah 100% "correct". To me, it is ludicrous to think we should have to go through this drama with every single name out there, until the masses get the pronunciation right.

Following your logic, we should use Latin to pronounce even those names that have nothing to do with Latin, just because they are a species epitah?? Why then, would you not choose a live language that is more commonly in use worldwide, then a dead language that nobody except theological scholars can interpret??? Your argument is moot I'm afraid, I cannot for the life of me see your point.

It can get very difficult explaining something to someone who is not willing to listen to what they are being told. I'm doing my best to understand you and your point, but you can only flog a dead horse for so long

Steve

 

[Steve Nunn]

LOL Steve I would not have held you to that if you had not replied you know , but so long as you don't have to put out for postage i will remain guilt free .

Hi Bill,
I just had to get some critters to you one of these days

Steve

 

[Thoth]

There are generally accepted conventions to pronounce scientific names that are a hundred or so years old. The convention does not follow classical or ecclesiatical latin pronunciation but rather medieval pronounciation of latin

Chandler, C. 1889. Pronunciation of Latin and Quasi-latin Scientific terms.
Bulletin of the Scientific Laboratories of Denison University, 4:161-176.

http://www.saltspring.com/capewest/pron.htm

 

[Nate]

Without boring scientific debate and mental masturbation I advice you try speech software.

http://www.cepstral.com/

Cut and paste your names in here and it should give you guidance in *most* of the names.

 

[jamesc]

here is a site that plays someone pronouncing the different species names http://www.arachnofreaks.com/info_sheets.htm i had another one but i cant remember where it is. hope this helped