King Baboon Taranutula and Hallucinations

charm271

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I was reading wiki on King Baboon Tararuntula and it states "a bite from a baby (1 cm body length) of this species caused sharp pain and strong hallucinations and the place of the bite remained itchy for five days." I have not found much in the bite reports about these hallucinations and associated effects or science behind the venom. Would its venom for example be something that causes fever and would induce hallucinations, its a neurotoxin that induces hallucinations by a dopamine flood perhaps, or possibly a side effect of other toxins in the venom? The other part of my question is has anyone ever tried to get bitten on purpose for hallucinations? :eek:
 

grayzone

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i generally steer clear of wiki pets.. ive seen some dumb stuff posted on them in the past.. or the care sheets are only partial.. or there is NOTHING at all..
I have never heard of hallucinations as a result of a bite from ANY t, and i doubt anybody would endure a bite for a cheap alternative to a "good time".. at least id LIKE to doubt it lol.. hallucinations arent all that, and are definitely not worth getting bit by a pissed off babboon
 

poisoned

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If you want hallucinations, you should probably go to amphibian-oriented forum.
 

madamoisele

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I'm sure some idiot somewhere, sometime, has been stupid enough to try this. I doubt the hallucinations were pleasant and certainly the side effects of the bite wouldn't be.

Do we have records of it? I doubt it.
 

poisoned

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---------- Post added 06-18-2012 at 05:10 PM ----------

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DON"T DO TOAD!!!
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Actually, many different amphibians have been used for psychonautic purposes by different cultures around the world. Toads, tree frogs and fire salamanders are some of those.
 

Clusterwhoops

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I've never heard of any tarantula causing hallucinations, although I will be following up on this. I'm willing to bet there is SOMEONE on this board that will be letting their king baboon bite them now.
 

Clusterwhoops

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if they do i hope they document it well.

I do recall reading on this board somewhere a guy on here letting centipedes bite him so he could report on it. I'm sure someone would be willing to do the same with some tarantulas.
 

SamuraiSid

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wikipets said:
Spiders usually eat larger amounts post-moult until they are full, this is called power feeding
wikipets said:
You can never overfeed a tarantula
wikipets said:
It is important to note that ceramic heaters and lamps will primarily heat the air and in turn raise humidity
Thats what I think of Wikipets... And care sheets in general;)


Im not so knowledgeable to say that I outright disbelieve that the venom will not cause a hallucination, but I truly doubt it. Its my understanding that venom toxcicity is only half the formula, and you have to take the individual's immune function and allergies into consideration. Some people get tagged and notice very little, even from the more venomous species, while some people can potentially be hospitalized by the same species.

Whether the hallucination truly occured or not, it cannot be clear that it was caused by tarantula venom. I once saw one idiot secretly mix illegal drugs into the drink of another idiot. If the second idiot would have attempted a T feeding afterwords, and got tagged, I understand how he could draw so simple a conclusion as to blame the tarantula.

A pinch of salt, my friend;)
 

le-thomas

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Wikipets is bad. Period.
That aside, I wouldn't be surprised if a bite from a T of that caliber messed up your senses/perception skills.
 

charm271

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I want to expand upon the thought about getting bitten on purpose and the motivation behind it. I could imagine a person getting bitten for sole purpose of the hospital visit, associated drugs, and/or time off work. I can imagine curiousity could be a motivation especially if a person has never experienced a bite from Old world Ts. Maybe be someone wants to know prior to making a decide about keeping that type of T in their collection.

My first Tarantula (B. albo) did bite me within first week of keeping it. It was little more than a bee sting in effect but my hand went to my mouth immediately after the bite. The taste is/was hard to describe, I did feel alittle tingle in my mouth, I wondered to myself would the taste of this bite be at all similar to tasting poisonous blow/puffer fish (I never tasted blow fish).
 

jayefbe

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Why did you want to taste tarantula venom? Why would someone deliberately be bitten just to get work off or score drugs? There are much simpler and much less painful ways of doing both those things. Why would someone want to be bitten before deciding what to keep? Does a venomous snake keeper let it bite them beforehand, just to see what it's like? Also, getting bitten is very uncommon. I am pretty confident that I will never suffer a bite. This thread is confusing me.
 

catfishrod69

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I would imagine there is someone out there that does let tarantulas bite them, just to document the effects, but i sure wouldnt recommend it. As far as the mentioning of someone letting centipedes bite them to see the effects, i think i seen that a long time ago, and they were doing it for documenting.
 

grayzone

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I'm sure someone would be willing to do the same with some tarantulas.
I would imagine there is someone out there that does let tarantulas bite them, just to document the effects, but i sure wouldnt recommend it. As far as the mentioning of someone letting centipedes bite them to see the effects, i think i seen that a long time ago, and they were doing it for documenting.
suprisingly there is.. i cant recall the sp. or the member, but i was recently diggin around the bite reports, and saw somebody who was purposely being bit by the t because there was no readily avilable bite reports anywhere.. I will try to dig it up, but honestly, it isnt that important to me:sarcasm: Cant fix stupid
 
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