Kicked out of Duplex due to "keeping Tarantulas"

Drachenjager

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I must from a legal standpoint dissagree, T's are as we know venomous.. and thusly the legal system treats them very differently. ala Bans in some municipalities.
but that has no bearing on the problem at hand. Unless the lease forbidds pets, the land lord has no recourse. With the exception if if Ts are banned (which would be done by compleat(not misspelled) morons) by city or state. If thats the case he could turn her in and maybe they wold be confiscated.

If there is no lease or the lease restricts pets all together shes in trouble. HOWEVER if it ONLY omits dogs and cats ... well I CAN prove that Ts are not cats or dogs lol
 

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A lot of areas (county, city), have passed a dangerous animal law - and you can make a safe bet that Ts fall into the dangerous animal category. If your area has such a law and you took your T out in public not knowing the law...:wall:
if the law dosent explicitly state Ts are dangerous or are included they you can prob get out of that as well. In the USA we are innocent untill proven guilty, so LEGALLY its up to the pro suction (PUN ALERT) to PROVE that you have a dangerous animal.
 

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One last word from experience

Make your enemy your friend - you can accomplish very little with an ememy, save go to war. You always get more with sugar. Go to this narrow minded guy and apologize - "I'm sorry for bringing (use a cutesy name for your T), out of my room; I forgot how most people react, even though she's harmless. You don't have to worry, I won't do it again." You can also feel him out that way, too.
 

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I don't think he can evict you, but he CAN give make your life miserable and attept to force you to get rid of the spiders. Venomous creature bylaws in NY are tricky and if he really wants them (or you) out, he can take steps to try and do so.

If he asks to come in, I would just show him your display and how the Ts are contained. As far as I know, there are no legalities against keeping Taratnulas as pets in your area, since they are sold in local pet shops there. It would be in your best interest to learn the laws so you have recourse should he try to evict you or your Ts.

Best advice is to keep yourself two steps ahead.
PM me if you want to talk more.
 

T-chick

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If you have any old molts.. put those in a bag and say they died due to lack of heat.
You can do the ole "defanged" premise. Most people ask if they have been. And a few people abroad have tried to save some t's that are being sold as food in some countries.. they have been defanged/clipped.
I hope this advice helps.

Keep us updated...
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ironmonkey78

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try talking again

as everyone says itd be good to check over your lease agreement. have you sat down and talked to him since then. as with many people it may be an initial reaction. he is the landlord and as such wouldnt he get into trouble if someone got bit and he allowed it? maybe show him that they are not going to escape. let him see how you are keeping them and that might put him a little more at ease. of course this may have a worse effect if your keeping a lot of Ts.

I think even when they tell you to get rid of a pet once you say that you have they are allowed to check your place to make sure you complied.

like I said before try and talk to him again. if it genuinely looks like he is going to boot you out because of it then do what you can but if he just gives you dirty looks and thinks your a wierdo for having tarantulas I dont think itll get as serious as kicking you out.
 

Scott C.

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"Forcing" landlords to let you stay can have some pretty messed up side effects....... I'd personally stick with the white lie, and laying low.
Sorry to hear about your situation. Bitter people are hard to deal with.
 

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Get a hot girl to loudly talk about how cute and fuzzy and not dangerous they are ;)
 

jamesc

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I try to settle a problem like this before I rent the apartment. What I always do is ask the landlord if aquariums require a pet deposit. I just leave it at that and usually they don't ask. I have one that did ask and he was ok with them and one that found out that I wasn't talking about fish and he said "I don't wanna know"

That is what I ususally do to cover myself. In your particular situation, like it was said many times, just check the law and your lease.
 

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Somehow these kinds of threads remind me of that part in a family guy episode when Trisha Takanowa shows what happens in a hotel room when you turn on a black light. Thats my dorm room right there but with the obvious animal differences.
Why in the world didnt you tell the guy it was a house spider since it was just a sling?
 

kristal_kaos

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I AM A LANDLORD, and run an 80 unit apt complex, have 10 Ts, and even gave some slings to various tenants...
First off, do u have a copy of ur lease/rules n regulations? Does it say anything bout pets? If it doesnt say pets are prohibited, ur ok legally- even if he does try to evict u, u would win the case for sure due to that clause alone.
Second, are exotic animals or insects allowed in ur city? See, I never knew Ts and lizards werent allowed in my city, and I owned a lot...when i found out they were illegal here, i just talked to the local police to explain that they are housed properly and wont be an issue, these cops were nice enough to let me be....u may not get that lucky, but who knows. If u have any questions, hit me up...i can try to help u out the best i can- if i can, ok?:eek:
 

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Any suggestions? I am in a real bad situation at the moment, and I am out of ideas. He seen me hold it, and I am fine. Any thoughts?
I would just inform him, that if he evicts you, you will take him to court. And inform him that if it goes to court, you will have multitudes of experts on your side providing scientific evidence and argumentation proving any reason he has for evicting you to be patently false. Tell him you can prove that he has no legitimate reason to evict you, and that any action he takes against you would be based on his personal prejudice, and would be descriminatory in nature. Tell him you have access to arachnologists, breeders, experienced keepers, and specialists on invertebrate envenomations, and that they pack weighty support for your position.

If you would like any assistance in proving the benignity of your hobby animals, feel free to contact me. You should NOT be kicked out of any habitation on account of your hobby.
 

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I would just inform him, that if he evicts you, you will take him to court. And inform him that if it goes to court, you will have multitudes of experts on your side providing scientific evidence and argumentation proving any reason he has for evicting you to be patently false. Tell him you can prove that he has no legitimate reason to evict you, and that any action he takes against you would be based on his personal prejudice, and would be descriminatory in nature. Tell him you have access to arachnologists, breeders, experienced keepers, and specialists on invertebrate envenomations, and that they pack weighty support for your position.

If you would like any assistance in proving the benignity of your hobby animals, feel free to contact me. You should NOT be kicked out of any habitation on account of your hobby.
what if your hobby is illegal in the area?
 

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what if your hobby is illegal in the area?
Then you fight tooth and nail to make it legal. This hobby falls under the right to pursue happiness, which is a constitutional right. Whether it endangers you or not, you have the right to pursue any diversion that does not endanger others--skydiving, whitewater rafting, survival hiking, snake juggling, sword swallowing or whatever. You can make a STRONG constitutional case that you have the right to those activities. You can also make a VERY STRONG case that keeping tarantulas is nowhere near as dangerous as any of those legal activites. You therefore have the constitutional right to pursue this hobby, regardless of what local or state authorities say, because the U.S. Constitution is federal law, and supercedes any legislation passed below the federal level ( town bylaws, state laws, etc. ).

If tarantulas were outlawed in my area, I would lawyer up and take the issue to court immediately. Defend your rights!
 

Drachenjager

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Then you fight tooth and nail to make it legal. This hobby falls under the right to pursue happiness, which is a constitutional right. Whether it endangers you or not, you have the right to pursue any diversion that does not endanger others--skydiving, whitewater rafting, survival hiking, snake juggling, sword swallowing or whatever. You can make a STRONG constitutional case that you have the right to those activities. You can also make a VERY STRONG case that keeping tarantulas is nowhere near as dangerous as any of those legal activites. You therefore have the constitutional right to pursue this hobby, regardless of what local or state authorities say, because the U.S. Constitution is federal law, and supercedes any legislation passed below the federal level ( town bylaws, state laws, etc. ).

If tarantulas were outlawed in my area, I would lawyer up and take the issue to court immediately. Defend your rights!
shoot you know as well as i do that the constitution of the united states is irrelevant in governance these days. If you get Technical ANY law that limits or restricts in any way firearm ownership is unconstitutional. but , even the NRA cant stop gun laws ... even stupid ones.
 
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