Great point!! I have WAY MORE respect for someone who says "I don't know the answer to that question, but I'll find out for you." than the guy who makes up an answer. In my presentations, if I don't know the answer to a queston, I freely admit it, and use that as a tool to help urge the kids find out more. I like to give them the information on WHERE they can find out the correct answer and let them run with it!ddale said:
Ok, but stupidity is not so much in what you don't know, as it is in what everyone else doesn't know. If I were to admit that I don't know something, that's fine. If I were to behave like, for instance, just about every pet store employee (ok, most of them...), that's something else, entirely.Pheonixx said:
Venomous pets including (presumedly) non-venomous monitors? Yeah, that's a good one. Hooray for the politicians!Pheonixx said:
Well, I guess you learn something new every day.Crotalus said:
"Tim" was John Cleese. As was the Black Knight, Lancelot, the French Taunter, the guy trying to get rid of his (not so) dead, and the newt. (as in "She turned me into...")Peloquin said:
We openly laugh at them and thank god that our parents aren't brother and sister tooprotheus said:
Good! I hope I helped you decide to help educate your local schools. I don'tPheonixx said:
I even brought the ATS medical guide with me, lol
still to Joe Q Public were the oddballs, most of the politrickions that like to bring in laws covering "exotic's" do so because of the brownie points they believe they will get from the voting public or so the extreme animal rights groups tell them, supported no doubt by polls they have taken with questions like "would you want to live next door to some one with wild animals that could kill your kids should they escape”
It's one thing to want to outlaw something that has even the most remote chance of killing or seriously injuring a normal person. (Deathstalker? "The world's most venomous spider?") I'm _not_ even for that, myself, but at least I can understand the fear as being something which isn't completely stupid.FryLock said:
It's completely different to want to outlaw keeping savanah monitors, the chilean rose, emperor scorpions..., which in some cases, I know, can be trying! The worst is when you encounter complete ignorance (or stupidity) in a person who is in what I call a "position of credibility." For example, a pet shop employee. Or museum volunteer. When I moved to Tucson, long ago and before I was really heavy into tarantulas, I went to The Sonoran Desert Museum. A wonderful place, generally speaking. One of the first things I encountered was a docent, a very friendly older woman, holding a tarantula--probably Aphonopelma, but I didn't know that at the time--and displaying it for a group of curious on-lookers. I thought it was pretty nifty and asked "What kind of spider is that?" Her reply, slightly condescending in a manner which suggested she was going to absolutely fascinate me, was "It's...a......TARANTULA!" I moved on.. OK, I'll summarize and stop boring you. Forgive the ignorant, and educate where possible. The stupid, deal with on a case by case basis. Try, through it all, to maintain your sanity and your sense of humor. And if this kind of stuff bothers you. DON'T work in a pet store. And if it REALLY REALLY bothers you, don't GO in a pet store.
Mr. Rourke said:
In the face of the lack of real facts most of the AR ppl will just use out of date information heavy distortions of what ever facts and figures are true and if all else fails even outright lie's to prove there pointprotheus said:
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ok if you dont believe me look here...protheus said:
The Bill text doesn't actually imply that monitors are venomous. It refers to "reptiles that are venomous" AND "the following species and families....."Pheonixx said:
Very much like a little turtle, complete with the salmonella risk, no?Mr. Rourke said: