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that's a bummer.....sorry for your loss....keep us posted.......any pics??
it's raining slings!
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Hi Holley,
I'll attach a picture of an incubator Soren Rafin posted on the Australian T Forum, I don't think he'd mind.
I've used a similar method and I've also used and had great success just incubating them in a container filled with peatmoss. It just involves turning the sac every now and then.
By the sounds of it I'd say the mother may not be cut out to parent. What you described happens when a sac being artifcially incubated isn't turned enough, some eggs in the sac will go moldy and others will make it. It could also reflect that the spider is unhappy in some way, however minor it may be, although I don't believe you would have any problems keeping the critters happy.
Hope the incubator shot helps
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Originally posted by Immortal_sin
I am trying to incubate the rest inside the sac, if anyone has advice on how to do that let me know.
It's essential to get the bad eggs out or the other fertile eggs will be susceptable to infection too. Tweezers are allways handy for this. A lot of motion and turning of the sac should help too. You will have to constantly check for further fungal infection, at least once a day.
Hope this helps groover
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Steve,
thanks for the drawing. I did a somewhat similiar, but a bit cruder method. I thought I better do something tonight.
I took a cup like the one in the drawing, put moist verm and paper towelling in the bottom. Took a nylon and hung it over the moist bottom, but not touching it. put babies in the nylon sling. Put a lid on with vent holes.
I got about 10 more of them, some of them were dead, some were only partly developed, and there was a mass of undeveloped eggs. They were at the bottom of the sac. It looks to my untrained eye like the female did not bother to turn it or move it around, and the ones on the bottom just either didn't develop, or went bad.
I am too tired to post pics tonight, but I will post them tomorrow
thanks for you help!
Holley
thanks for the drawing. I did a somewhat similiar, but a bit cruder method. I thought I better do something tonight.
I took a cup like the one in the drawing, put moist verm and paper towelling in the bottom. Took a nylon and hung it over the moist bottom, but not touching it. put babies in the nylon sling. Put a lid on with vent holes.
I got about 10 more of them, some of them were dead, some were only partly developed, and there was a mass of undeveloped eggs. They were at the bottom of the sac. It looks to my untrained eye like the female did not bother to turn it or move it around, and the ones on the bottom just either didn't develop, or went bad.
I am too tired to post pics tonight, but I will post them tomorrow
thanks for you help!
Holley
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Holley-
I don't think Pterinochilus really turn the eggsacs anyway, as they make the hammock style sac that is attached to structure. Maybe they do, but what I seem to see is the mom "massaging" the sac rather than actually turning it. She might have built the sac in a place where it was hard for her to get to. I lost a sac ealier this year because the female built the hammock between the side of the cage and the water bowl. Water wicked up the web and caused the eggs to mold (at least this is my theory).
34 may not be as bad of a count for this species as you may think. I've bred them succesfully twice, and I think the biggest sac had about 120. I don't know what the average is, but I think it's ALOT smaller than what we'd expect from Brachypelma or Aphonopelma, who (as you know!) have hundereds and hundreds of eggs in a sac. I don't know what the spiderling market is like where you live, but I had a hard time giving the slings away! I think the most I could get for them was like $5 a pop. However, once they had a little size on them, like 1.5", I could get a lot more for them. Fortunately, it only takes a few months to raise them up to that size. 34 seems like a nice, manageable number to me, at least for this species. I wouldn't be disapointed at all.
I've got you beat for the title of "world's smallest eggsac". I had an A. avicularia sac hatch out earlier this year with a whopping FIVE spiderlings! Beat that!
Anyway, good luck with the incubation project!
Wade
I don't think Pterinochilus really turn the eggsacs anyway, as they make the hammock style sac that is attached to structure. Maybe they do, but what I seem to see is the mom "massaging" the sac rather than actually turning it. She might have built the sac in a place where it was hard for her to get to. I lost a sac ealier this year because the female built the hammock between the side of the cage and the water bowl. Water wicked up the web and caused the eggs to mold (at least this is my theory).
34 may not be as bad of a count for this species as you may think. I've bred them succesfully twice, and I think the biggest sac had about 120. I don't know what the average is, but I think it's ALOT smaller than what we'd expect from Brachypelma or Aphonopelma, who (as you know!) have hundereds and hundreds of eggs in a sac. I don't know what the spiderling market is like where you live, but I had a hard time giving the slings away! I think the most I could get for them was like $5 a pop. However, once they had a little size on them, like 1.5", I could get a lot more for them. Fortunately, it only takes a few months to raise them up to that size. 34 seems like a nice, manageable number to me, at least for this species. I wouldn't be disapointed at all.
I've got you beat for the title of "world's smallest eggsac". I had an A. avicularia sac hatch out earlier this year with a whopping FIVE spiderlings! Beat that!
Anyway, good luck with the incubation project!
Wade
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Hey
Congratulations on the new babies, and good luck with incubating, I cant imagine having so many babies .
Congratulations on the new babies, and good luck with incubating, I cant imagine having so many babies .
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i want one!
please i have only 1 t, i would love to have a usambara, if you can i would really apriciate it if you gave me 1, or if you can sell me one for $3 to $5, please!!! If you can sell me one, or give one to me e-mail me at: JHKakos@cs.com
Thank you very much!,
James Kakos
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please i have only 1 t, i would love to have a usambara, if you can i would really apriciate it if you gave me 1, or if you can sell me one for $3 to $5, please!!! If you can sell me one, or give one to me e-mail me at: JHKakos@cs.com
Thank you very much!,
James Kakos
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Wade,
you definately have me beat on the world's smallest eggsac! Did they all survive?
Well, I have to split the slings with the male's owner, so I will be lucky to end up with 10-15. The ones in the incubator I doubt will make it, and there are 3-4 dead that I separated yesterday. None of them look too sprightly, if I do say so myself.
I don't think she could really get to the bottom of the eggsac, they way it was sitting...poor thing!
My cam battery is charging, I'll upload pics as soon as it's done.
As for giving or selling them James...I doubt I'll have enough to do that with this eggsac
you definately have me beat on the world's smallest eggsac! Did they all survive?
Well, I have to split the slings with the male's owner, so I will be lucky to end up with 10-15. The ones in the incubator I doubt will make it, and there are 3-4 dead that I separated yesterday. None of them look too sprightly, if I do say so myself.
I don't think she could really get to the bottom of the eggsac, they way it was sitting...poor thing!
My cam battery is charging, I'll upload pics as soon as it's done.
As for giving or selling them James...I doubt I'll have enough to do that with this eggsac
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Congrats Holley! If you are selling them to Arachnopeople, please keep me in mind. I have six adults and one juvie now but I just can't get enough of these guys.
Cheers,
Dave
Cheers,
Dave