Is the real Scorpio maurus brown? It seems that the yellow one only correspond its former ssp, S. palmatus

[THR]

Scorpio maurus, its former two well-known ssp, S. m. fuscus and S. m. palmatus were already elevated to sp. level. The most commonly known "Scorpio maurus" seems refer in particular to the palmatus, which is a yellow species from Middle East. Another yellow Scorpio namely Scorpio kruglovi also from ME, appears to have a obscurer and rougher body.
I've read paper about the former two Scorpio maurus ssp, which shows that the yellow ones correspond to palmatus, while dark ones fit fuscus. Thus I speculate that the usual yellow species are most possibly palmatus.


Which leads to another question, wshat does Scorpio maurus maurus looks like? FYI, it still has some spp, but mostly from North Africa.
I used to thought that S. m. maurus is also golden yellow, but when associated with the meaning of its name, maurus, which means dark or obscure, I just get puzzled.
I've seen some most possibly maurus images. The first picture below is from science paper, and the latter is a similar one.


So does anyone have certain morphology information on Scorpio maurus and the distribution of all its ssp? Since many formerly included ssp. are now sp., I suggest the distribution of Scorpio maurus may reduce. I guess only about two spp. are from ME, while most are from NA. Especially the type ssp, I wonder what color is it and the type locality.

 

[Lubed Tweezer]

I have one of the gold/yellow kind. It was sold to me as S. maurus and i was told it came from Israel.
If i hadn't read this post i might never knew that it's actually a S. maurus palmatus.
This dark species in your picture looks very pleasing.
Thanks for posting !!

 

[THR]

I have one of the gold/yellow kind. It was sold to me as S. maurus and i was told it came from Israel.
If i hadn't read this post i might never knew that it's actually a S. maurus palmatus.
This dark species in your picture looks very pleasing.
Thanks for posting !!

If you are interested, below is the paper of S. m. palmatus upgrade to S .palmatus.

 

[Lubed Tweezer]

Cool! Thank you !!
I guess I have to call it a Scorpio palmatus from now on.
In the paper there are pictures of several species (A-F), mine looks like picture D.
Have you got a Scorpio palmatus or fuscus yourself ?

 

[Ferrachi]

Cool! Thank you !!
I guess I have to call it a Scorpio palmatus from now on.
In the paper there are pictures of several species (A-F), mine looks like picture D.
Have you got a Scorpio palmatus or fuscus yourself ?

Same here... I have the same one, I thought it was a Scorpio Maurus

 

[THR]

Cool! Thank you !!
I guess I have to call it a Scorpio palmatus from now on.
In the paper there are pictures of several species (A-F), mine looks like picture D.
Have you got a Scorpio palmatus or fuscus yourself ?

No, in my country they are nowhere to obtain.

 

[KOTS]

Hello 2 all!. Some sources write that Scorpio maurus and Scorpio fuscus are synonyms, but as far as I understand, the latter is a subspecies of the first - Scorpio maurus fuscus. The scorpion in the photo above, in my opinion, belongs to exactly this subspecies, like mine. I have a couple of questions, it would be very grateful if you could help me. Is it possible to feed a scorpion with ladybugs and other insects with a similar color? There are such bugs, we call them soldiers. Can I feed them? The second question is, what kind of substrate is suitable for this species? Different experts say different things. Some recommend using earth (black soil) as a substrate, others - coconut, and still others - stones. I covered half of the terrarium with earth. The second half is with stones. Large terrarium - 20 cm long and at least 10 wide. But he doesn't feel comfortable. Constantly sandwiched between stones, and if he walks, he looks for a way out. I gave him standard food - some small beetles that I took from the keeper, as well as worms. But he didn't eat them. Then I put the scorpion in a smaller tank and threw my food into it, and he still didn't eat. And then I caught this very soldier and gave it to him. He ate two. Therefore, I am interested in whether these insects are toxic to the scorpion or not. In theory, in nature, this size of bugs is his food. Some say that a scorpion can be poisoned by a bee or a wasp, but I have never seen that. Thank you very much in advance.

 

[Joey Spijkers]

Hello 2 all!. Some sources write that Scorpio maurus and Scorpio fuscus are synonyms, but as far as I understand, the latter is a subspecies of the first - Scorpio maurus fuscus. The scorpion in the photo above, in my opinion, belongs to exactly this subspecies, like mine. I have a couple of questions, it would be very grateful if you could help me. Is it possible to feed a scorpion with ladybugs and other insects with a similar color? There are such bugs, we call them soldiers. Can I feed them? The second question is, what kind of substrate is suitable for this species? Different experts say different things. Some recommend using earth (black soil) as a substrate, others - coconut, and still others - stones. I covered half of the terrarium with earth. The second half is with stones. Large terrarium - 20 cm long and at least 10 wide. But he doesn't feel comfortable. Constantly sandwiched between stones, and if he walks, he looks for a way out. I gave him standard food - some small beetles that I took from the keeper, as well as worms. But he didn't eat them. Then I put the scorpion in a smaller tank and threw my food into it, and he still didn't eat. And then I caught this very soldier and gave it to him. He ate two. Therefore, I am interested in whether these insects are toxic to the scorpion or not. In theory, in nature, this size of bugs is his food. Some say that a scorpion can be poisoned by a bee or a wasp, but I have never seen that. Thank you very much in advance.

The former Scorpio maurus fuscus has been elevated to species level, making it Scorpio fuscus.

How long have you had your scorp? If you recently obtained it, it needs time to settle in and start eating. I can’t advice you on the ‘soldiers’, because I have no idea what insect that is. I would use commercial insects such as crickets or cockroaches and not wild caught ones.

As for the substrate, use a deep layer of sand-clay mixture. In the wild, Scorpio sp. make very deep burrows. This should be replecated by a deep substrate that holds tunnels and provides a humidity gradient (more humid the deeper it goes). If you mix sand with clay and let it dry out in the top half, that is ideal. Make sure there is not so much clay that it becomes too hard to burrow in, just enough that it holds the shape of the tunnels.

 

[KOTS]

This particular sokrpion I have recently. But the fact is that he already ate from me, but those insects that I caught. I just looked at wikipedia, it is about Pyrrhocoris apterus. Now it is on coconut, but I will change the sustra as you said. He also constantly sits on a wet mind through which I sing it with water. It is strange that it lacks moisture, because it is a local scorpion, we already have high humidity. As for the taxonomy, I'm confused, the popular name for this species is the Israeli golden scorpion, but their color varies from yellow to dark brown.

 

[KOTS]

As you can see, on one side there are coconut flakes, on the other, stones from nature, in which it lives. There is a shelter. Also, I just can't figure out how to properly fuscus about watering scorpions. Some say it is better to use a Petri dish. Others (most Israeli keepers) advise simply wetting the soft paper, crumpling it up, and the scorpion will get moisture from it. I've tried this and that. Neither did Rahu see the scorion come up to the petri dish, and he often comes up to the paper and sits on it, just like in the photo. I don't understand what is wrong with the terms. These are the royal chambers for him. When I purchased my first scorpion, Nebo hierichonticus, I was advised to use stones as a substitute. I tried stones and sand, and combined all this, and clay soil, and all together. Once, as a decoration, I put a pot with a flower in the terrarium, there was black soil there. And my scorpion stuck into this piece of land. So its land is pleasant, although the view seems to be semi-desert. I often recommend bark shavings. But is it not suitable for scorpions? The fact is that, firstly, it looks aesthetically pleasing and beautiful, and secondly, it is easy to clean.

 

[Joey Spijkers]

As I said, deep sand-clay mixture. More humid on the bottom, dry on top.

 

[KOTS]

How do you keep the soil moist at the bottom and dry at the top? It will dry out. I will redesign the terrarium and show it later, thanks.

 

[Joey Spijkers]

If you add water, it will drain down to the bottom. You can also add a pvc pipe so it drains directly to the bottom.

 

[KOTS]

What do you think about this insect? Can a scorpion die from it? I followed your advice, collected ground with clay, decorate the terrarium and take a photo. Thanks again.

 

[Joey Spijkers]

I think firebugs can be great feeders. Only concern is that it’s caught from the wild, so you don’t know if there’s any pesticides in it. If you know there’s no pesticides in the area the bug was collected, I have no concerns with it.

 

[KOTS]

I fished from a distance from a man's dwelling. Here, I rebuilt the terrarium as you skaaliya Rrmalno? What to add?

 

[KOTS]

Is that so normal?

 

[Joey Spijkers]

Add something for the scorpion to hide under. That’s where the scorp will start its burrow. Besides that, it looks good.

 

[KOTS]

Thanks again. I have one more question about how to give water. Some recommend putting a bowl, such as a Petri dish. Others, including my kier, say that the paper should be wet, crumpled and the scorpion will receive water from it.

 

[KOTS]

Now it's ok?