is my asf molting or is he dying?

greatwavex

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i arrived home on friday to find my asf in his water bowl. i don’t keep a lot of water in there as i know they could drown. his humidity is at 85, and temps stay between 70-75 degrees. i removed him from the water and he was not moving. i placed him on dry substrate. i searched the internet which said he could be molting. i checked on him saturday morning he was unresponsive, but that evening he was twitching slightly. sunday he was still twitching here and there. yesterday he was not moving, and today he was twitching slightly. could he be having problems molting or what could be going on?
 

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i arrived home on friday to find my asf in his water bowl. i don’t keep a lot of water in there as i know they could drown. his humidity is at 85, and temps stay between 70-75 degrees. i removed him from the water and he was not moving. i placed him on dry substrate. i searched the internet which said he could be molting. i checked on him saturday morning he was unresponsive, but that evening he was twitching slightly. sunday he was still twitching here and there. yesterday he was not moving, and today he was twitching slightly. could he be having problems molting or what could be going on?
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DaveM

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I see the video. At least he doesn't appear to be at all dehydrated, which was my first thought from your description. Looks fat and about to molt, though it's strange to be totally unresponsive for this long.
Maybe others have more insights.
 

greatwavex

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I see the video. At least he doesn't appear to be at all dehydrated, which was my first thought from your description. Looks fat and about to molt, though it's strange to be totally unresponsive for this long.
Maybe others have more insights.
that’s what was throwing me off, was him being unresponsive. yesterday evening, he was still the same way, but has an occasional twitch in his stinger. it’s been 6 days now, and has me worried.
 

DaveM

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Six days is very worrisome. Sorry, not looking good. There are better scorpion experts on here than I am though. I hope someone else can help you.
 

greatwavex

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Six days is very worrisome. Sorry, not looking good. There are better scorpion experts on here than I am though. I hope someone else can help you.
no need to apologize. i’m open to accepting all possibilities. if he does pass, i do wish to preserve him, but i want to be sure of his passing before doing so.
 

Veno Manus

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There could be a chance that its stuck in it's molting or dosent have enough energy to push itself out. The fact it was cuddling the water bowl makes me question if it was in fact needing more hydration. I see the substrate looks little dry IMO, but maybe soak the floor and let it drain through and bump the heat up to the high 80s almost 90. Scorpions of this type thrive in high humidity and higher temps for their metabolism to do it's job. The 70s are low but not concerning but that could be a reason it's not properly going through it's next stage. Example: imagine ( yourself) being in a cold storm and having no clothing to protect yourself from the weather and trying to operate at full capacity. It would be quite hard to function properly and be content. Now imagine being in the Bahamas and being able to not have to worry and putting little effort into protecting yourself from the cold. It takes a lot of energy for scorpions to molt and not having to proper setting will effect the end results. Try to tweak some settings before it's to late and see if it bounces back. There's a chance but it's small since it's been days like this. These are personal thoughts and I am not a professional but I do have good luck with my species molting and them taking on food items without issue. Take what you will from this but to be clear, these are inverts and it's just the nature of the game. Good luck with this and hope you get it resolved.
 

greatwavex

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There could be a chance that its stuck in it's molting or dosent have enough energy to push itself out. The fact it was cuddling the water bowl makes me question if it was in fact needing more hydration. I see the substrate looks little dry IMO, but maybe soak the floor and let it drain through and bump the heat up to the high 80s almost 90. Scorpions of this type thrive in high humidity and higher temps for their metabolism to do it's job. The 70s are low but not concerning but that could be a reason it's not properly going through it's next stage. Example: imagine ( yourself) being in a cold storm and having no clothing to protect yourself from the weather and trying to operate at full capacity. It would be quite hard to function properly and be content. Now imagine being in the Bahamas and being able to not have to worry and putting little effort into protecting yourself from the cold. It takes a lot of energy for scorpions to molt and not having to proper setting will effect the end results. Try to tweak some settings before it's to late and see if it bounces back. There's a chance but it's small since it's been days like this. These are personal thoughts and I am not a professional but I do have good luck with my species molting and them taking on food items without issue. Take what you will from this but to be clear, these are inverts and it's just the nature of the game. Good luck with this and hope you get it resolved.
okay, i have a dry side and the more damp side which is where the water bowl is. should i move him to that side and see if it helps? is there any way i could help him with molting?
 

Veno Manus

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It is highly advised to not touch them. It's the most vulnerable part of their life cycle. It will only add stress which will make them exert more energy and then eventually tire them out and won't be able to molt. Just keep the nudity high and the temps up and let it run its course.


okay, i have a dry side and the more damp side which is where the water bowl is. should i move him to that side and see if it helps? is there any way i could help him with molting?
 
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