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Idiopidae sp. ID?

Discussion in 'Other Spiders & Arachnids' started by Wesley Barnum, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

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    this was sold to me as a Thyropoeus mirandus, and it's clearly not one. I bought it from 03arachnids. apparently this is common from what I understand, I know I'm not the only one this has happen too. my friend who knows about trapdoors says it could be Idiopidae. if anybody has any idea please tell me. she's about 2.5" pushing 3" not at all to defensive, but did bite my paint brush a few.
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  2. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoking Active Member

    CA
    It’s from Madagascar?
     
  3. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    I don’t know. I’d would assume so, because that’s the only way I could think of these two species getting mixed up. Because apparently my situation isn’t the only one. There’s a guy on Instagram with the same species I got when he ordered a T. Mirandus
     
  4. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoking Active Member

    CA
    I think someone said these are Genysa sp.

    Why don’t you believe the ID?
     
  5. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    because T. mirandus eyes are different. they're more spread out than a typical mygale. here's a pic of a close cousin to it. [​IMG]
     
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  6. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    I can't really find much to confirm it. wikipedia only gives two genus names: G. bicalcarata and G. decorsei. and no images to reference check.
     
  7. NYAN

    NYAN Arachnoking Active Member

    CA
    You likely won’t find photos very easy. Try WSC. Sometimes there’s illustrations.

    Anyway, I know one of the importers of the Madagascar inverts. I’ll ask them what they know about an ID next time I talk to them.
     
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  8. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    thanks man! I appreciate it. and I'll look into it and see what I can find.
     
  9. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    I also sent out an email to 03arachnids to at least make them aware that they've sold the wrong species. they sold out of them too! so that's gonna be fun for them.:troll: I don't know if anyone would refund it or not. personally I'm not. I think it's cool that I got a rare trapdoor species that no one really understands what it is. and idk if they did have some and some that weren't. if anyone did get an actual Thyropoeus, let me know.
     
  10. RezonantVoid

    RezonantVoid Hollow Knight Arachnosupporter

    The desired species has alot in common with Migidae in terms of appearance. Here's a few photos of my Idiopids if you would like to compare.
    Giant Cataxia sp. Black
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    Euoplos Variabilis
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    These 2 in my personal opinion, appear quite similar in build to the specimen you're showing us
     
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  11. Wesley Barnum

    Wesley Barnum Arachnosquire Active Member

    Indeed they do! Especially the euoplos. I feel it’s safe to assume that it is a idiopid, and it is confirmed by Austin they came from Madagascar. The important he bought them from frank somma. I tried to get in touch with him to get his word on this.
     
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