Hysterocrates hercules what exacually is the fuss?

xTimx

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hmmmmm ok

i think he said he got it imported from london UK. not too sure honestly. i'll talk to the importer and ask him and let you know the backstory of it :)

EDIT: says he bought from a small breeder in germany. from there....thats it.... haha
 
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Scolopeon

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This is why Hysterocrates is such a mess, we have similarities between sp. and this led people to hybridise them... My sp. Cameroon above looks closer to your spider than the sp. Nigeria next to it, the Cameroon is on the right.
These are labelled where they were collected from because of said issues, this indicates that they are wild collected and this will in effect stop the hybridising in the hobby.

A lot of people label gigas as hercules to turn a quick profit, which is another issue.

Real Hysterocrates hercules never have thickened leg IV, it is always almost uniform in width to leg I, II, III.. This is how I can tell it is not hercules.

A shot of your Hysterocrates sp. with it's legs fully laid out would be great.
 
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xTimx

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i'll try to get a shot....but since she's been put into this enclosure she's just been curling up because of the stress of the move. i only put her into this enclosure last night. so i'll give her time. she's already been webbing the floor up really good.
 

Scolopeon

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It is an amazing spider none the less, I love all baboon spiders.
As it is a juvenile, a positive ID is harder, although at 4" she is just starting to get the thickened rear legs.

Going by color and hairiness I would say you have a H. crassipes.
On look and leg thickness, H. gigas..

crassipes has entirely thick leg IV, gigas has slightly thicker leg IV with thick tibia, they lose these when they mature.

An identifying feature of those two sp. is leg II is longer than leg III.. H. Hercules, leg II and III are the same length.
 

YoshiDavid

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Just for you I got my copy of the book out and snapped a pic... The fact that there is no proof this is the real hercules, further adds to the mystery, the spider here has a serious cephalophorax though.

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sorry what book was this from…I’m on the hunt for anything to do with African species.
Thanks
 

NMTs

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sorry what book was this from…I’m on the hunt for anything to do with African species.
Thanks
Um, maybe you didn't notice that the last post in this thread was 9 years ago? That said, the photo you're asking about says right on it that it's from "A Color Guide to Tarantulas of the World" by Russ Gurley, 1994...
 
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