How to care for Steatoda eggsack ?

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I let them cannibalize until their number gets down to what I want it to be. It depends on how many slings you want to care for.

I don't care for them at all during that time. I don't open the container until I am ready to separate them.
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Oh Okay Thank You Very Much ^ ^

So you don't even dew them during that time (I heard dehydratation is commom cause of death for spiderlings) ?
 

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Oh Okay Thank You Very Much ^ ^

So you don't even dew them during that time (I heard dehydratation is commom cause of death for spiderlings) ?
If you can manage to open the container and spritz some water that's fine. But those first few days I don't and it's fine. They get moisture from their siblings as they consume them.
 

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If you can manage to open the container and spritz some water that's fine. But those first few days I don't and it's fine. They get moisture from their siblings as they consume them.
Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much again ^ ^

So you just keep them in the enclousure in which you kept the eggsack until you have the ammount of them as you want if I get it right ?

Can I ask how long do you ussualy keep them like that ?

(I would want to keep 13 Steatoda bipunctata spiderlings and 7 Steatoda triangulosa spiderlings as I don't really have place for more)

Also can I ask is it really good idea to spritz water on the spiderlings every day, sorry that Iam asking again but from what I read both Steatoda triangulosa and Steatoda bipunctata prefer dry habitats so Iam a bit afraid that it could be exesive and that it could hurt them in some way (Adults of Steatoda bipunctata can survive months without water or food thanks to their unique adaptations) ?
 

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Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much again ^ ^

So you just keep them in the enclousure in which you kept the eggsack until you have the ammount of them as you want if I get it right ?

Can I ask how long do you ussualy keep them like that ?

(I would want to keep 13 Steatoda bipunctata spiderlings and 7 Steatoda triangulosa spiderlings as I don't really have place for more)

Also can I ask is it really good idea to spritz water on the spiderlings every day, sorry that Iam asking again but from what I read both Steatoda triangulosa and Steatoda bipunctata prefer dry habitats so Iam a bit afraid that it could be exesive and that it could hurt them in some way (Adults of Steatoda bipunctata can survive months without water or food thanks to their unique adaptations) ?
I keep them like that until their numbers get to where I want them.
I don't water until I separate them.
 

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I keep them like that until their numbers get to where I want them.
I don't water until I separate them.
Hello everyone I've got an update

So my deli cups arrived and I trasported the Steatoda bipunctata eggsacks (she laid second one not so long ago) to their enclousure

The first one hatched in the mother's enclousure but fortunately the spiderlings didn't dispresed yet so I trasported them along with the eggsack to the enclousure, sadly the eggsacks were so glued to the stick and the cobweb that I had to destroy it (cobweb) but hopefully she will make a new one (and also I could atleast remove the substrate from the enclousure because I made that enclousure when I was absolute newbie to Steatoda care, it worked because I was just dropping the prey to her web but I assumed it's much better idea to remove it)

I tried to be as gentle as possible but it was kinda hard to move the eggsacks, so I hope I didn't squished/crushed the eggs or the spiderlings

Sorry Darkness I didn't found similar lids within the EU and the ones from America wouldn't arrived in time (the deli cups barely arrived in time) so I had to make them myself, I know it looks kinda low-budget but it works 😅

I will post and update when I will move the Steatoda triangulosa eggsacks too
Frist three pictures are the eggsacks in their enclousures and the last two pictures is mother in her update egg-free enclousure

Also I bought small/pinhead crickets they are great for feeding my spoods (atleast most of them) but absolute pain in the ass to get out (I realized the best way to get them out is just wait for the to jump out and then grab them with cotton and put them into jar and from it to the spider's enclousure) not to mentioned some almost escaped xD (they were luckily caught eventualy)
 

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I keep them like that until their numbers get to where I want them.
I don't water until I separate them.
Sorry I got a few new questions

Can I ask how long does it take on average for their numbers to decrease to 15 individuals ?

Also can I ask can the spiderlings molt in the "communal enclousure" (the eggsack enclousure) or not ?

Also Update :
I've separated the eggsacks of my Steatoda triangulosa from the mother yesterday, it was much easier than separating the eggsacks of S. bipunctata, I didn't even had to damage the cobweb much and she wasn't that defensive either

On the picture you can see the Steatoda triangulosa eggsacks in their enclousure (don't worry the critter keeper bellow has no residence anymore I just didn't removed it yet)
 

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A couple weeks depending on how warm and hungry they are.

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Oh Okay Thank Youuuu Very Much ^ ^

That should be all for now

Here are my Steatoda bipunctata spiderlings btw (on the first picture are most of the babies still not disperesed yet and on the second picture is one spiderling next to Steatoda bipunctata eggsack)
 

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Love them! I've never kept one in captivity but they are all over my garage and I love watching them. As cute as it is to suddenly be surrounded (or covered) by tiny balooning spoodlings while working at my desk, I always worry I'm going to accidentally crush them!
 

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Love them! I've never kept one in captivity but they are all over my garage and I love watching them. As cute as it is to suddenly be surrounded (or covered) by tiny balooning spoodlings while working at my desk, I always worry I'm going to accidentally crush them!
Awwwwwww :33

That sounds cuuute, Steatoda triangulosa is all over this flat actually (both of my females were caught here) but I never saw Steatoda bipunctata here

I would actually wanna see those little spoodlings balooning in your garage that must be helluva adorable >w<

Yeah I understand that fear, accidentaly crushing a spood (or any other arthropod) is one of my biggest fears aswell
 

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Awwwwwww :33

That sounds cuuute, Steatoda triangulosa is all over this flat actually (both of my females were caught here) but I never saw Steatoda bipunctata here

I would actually wanna see those little spoodlings balooning in your garage that must be helluva adorable >w<

Yeah I understand that fear, accidentaly crushing a spood (or any other arthropod) is one of my biggest fears aswell
Yeah they're primarily Triangulosa that I notice here in the garage but we've got a variety of Steatoda species around the property.

And yeah the spoodlings are great. They always catch me by surprise the most when they emerge from egg sacs hidden up above the flourescent light fixtures. If I've got a fan going on out here it's even worse 😅
 

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Yeah they're primarily Triangulosa that I notice here in the garage but we've got a variety of Steatoda species around the property.

And yeah the spoodlings are great. They always catch me by surprise the most when they emerge from egg sacs hidden up above the flourescent light fixtures. If I've got a fan going on out here it's even worse 😅
Wow fascinating

Steatodas are my second favorite spiders, most of them are generaly similar in care and their behaviour but they have some differences outside of looks

Glad you are enjoying the spoodling, just keep the fan off IG xDDD
 

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Yeah they're primarily Triangulosa that I notice here in the garage but we've got a variety of Steatoda species around the property.

And yeah the spoodlings are great. They always catch me by surprise the most when they emerge from egg sacs hidden up above the flourescent light fixtures. If I've got a fan going on out here it's even worse 😅
Let me know when you want to delve into Latrodectus spp. The care is identical.
 

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A couple weeks depending on how warm and hungry they are.

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Hello, so sorry I write again but this is an emergency

So yesterday everything seemed to be Okay, spoodlings started dispersing, some were dead (probably eaten by their siblings) and some alive, just like I imagined it to go but today when I woke up I checked on the spiderlings and just one was alive, others were dead, the problem is that I don't have drosophilas or springtails yet (but I will probably be ordering them today, they should arrive in 2-3 days) as I expected them to stay like this for atleast a week or two, and the little one is too small for drosophilas anyways :/

Did they died to canibalization or was it something else ?

And what should I do now ?

First two pictures are the spiderlings yesterday (when most of them were alive) and the other 2 pictures are the spiderlings today (when just one was alive)

Thank Youuuu in advance for any help/suggestion ^ ^
 

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Hello, so sorry I write again but this is an emergency

So yesterday everything seemed to be Okay, spoodlings started dispersing, some were dead (probably eaten by their siblings) and some alive, just like I imagined it to go but today when I woke up I checked on the spiderlings and just one was alive, others were dead, the problem is that I don't have drosophilas or springtails yet (but I will probably be ordering them today, they should arrive in 2-3 days) as I expected them to stay like this for atleast a week or two, and the little one is too small for drosophilas anyways :/

Did they died to canibalization or was it something else ?

And what should I do now ?

First two pictures are the spiderlings yesterday (when most of them were alive) and the other 2 pictures are the spiderlings today (when just one was alive)

Thank Youuuu in advance for any help/suggestion ^ ^
Hello everyone, false alarm the spiderlings are alright !!!

Ok so it turned out that the darker coloration is just result of their exoskeletons hardening and most if not all of the spiderlings are alive, they just don't move much but when I poked them with paint brush they did so, so I closed the enclousure and putted it back where it was in order not to stress the animals

Sorry for the false alarm but Iam happy that my precious babies are alive and well ^ ^

On the pictures you can see the spiderlings in their enclousure
 

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