How do you mate the unwilling?

Spider_Monkey

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As of late, my boyfriend and I have run into a little problem. We have two pairs of T's we are trying to mate, but in both cases, the males are unwilling. Both of these males have been witnessed making sperm webs. We have mated plenty of other T's, and had nothing but success. We have never tried to mate the spiecies we are trying now, and I am just hoping for some advice.

The first pair is Iridopelma hirsutum. The first time we put the male in with the female there was some tapping but nothing happened. Since the first attempt we have tried maybe 4 -5 times, and now we are getting nothing; not even tapping.

The second pair is Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Our female taps like crazy, which seems to scare away the male. He doesn't tap; he just seems afraid.

Can anyone suggest anything?
 

Mattyb

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Well i really don't know what to tell you except for keep trying. I'm breeding 2 pair of rosies right now and both my males get the job done.

good luck :)



-Mattyb
 

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I'm tellin ya..

Merlot and Barry White !!!


Haven't tried to breed T's yet..

BEST OF LUCK..
 

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Hmmm, well there is not much you can do. Adjusting the temps and humidity might help a little. Some Ts just won't breed and we have to accept that. Just like, us, humans, we won't breed with everything that walks and talks. Not saying that Ts are picky about who they mate with, just that some won't, no matter what you try. Also, Ts is premolt, won't breed usually. 4-6 weeks after a mature female molts, makes her in prime for breeding and ensures your best chances of getting an eggsac. Make sure they are always well fed.

Some are also prone to be breed during specific seasons and time of day. Reproducing these seasons and conditions is a factor. Usually, most mature breeding pairs will go at it without a hitch, but some species can be a real pain in the arse.

Personally, when I can't get a pair to breed under supervision, I will make them communal.

Good luck.
 
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Bearskin10

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Spider_Monkey said:
As of late, my boyfriend and I have run into a little problem. We have two pairs of T's we are trying to mate, but in both cases, the males are unwilling. Both of these males have been witnessed making sperm webs. We have mated plenty of other T's, and had nothing but success. We have never tried to mate the spiecies we are trying now, and I am just hoping for some advice.

The first pair is Iridopelma hirsutum. The first time we put the male in with the female there was some tapping but nothing happened. Since the first attempt we have tried maybe 4 -5 times, and now we are getting nothing; not even tapping.

The second pair is Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens. Our female taps like crazy, which seems to scare away the male. He doesn't tap; he just seems afraid.

Can anyone suggest anything?
I have seemed to have run into the same brick wall as you with the mating, first was my pair of Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens, get nothing from either of them no tapping nothing next was Avic. minatrix same thing no tapping or anything, next up was your male and my female rufilata they just seemed to want to snuggle and now today I just received a male Cyclosternum fasciatum, I have only had him for the day but already seems to be in the nothing mood like all the others have been in lately :wall: :wall: I just don't understand I have never had this much trouble breeding? :? Getting a healthy sac yes but the actually mating no.... Greg
 

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Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but I believe I've read that Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens is usually a difficult species to breed. So maybe that is commonplace for them. As for the others, maybe it's the time of year. Could be natural humidity levels or anything, really. Other than my theory on the GBB, I'm clueless, so pay no attention to me.
 

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critterz said:
Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but I believe I've read that Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens is usually a difficult species to breed. So maybe that is commonplace for them. As for the others, maybe it's the time of year. Could be natural humidity levels or anything, really. Other than my theory on the GBB, I'm clueless, so pay no attention to me.
yeah i have a friend with the same problem as you have but his is with b.vagans
there both in excellent condition and mature and have been put together on numerous occasions had one 5 second interval where the male lifted the female then nothing, i understand you can't make them do it but does anyone no anything that might give them the incentive don't breed myself but just curious and asking for his benifit :D
 

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critterz said:
Maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but I believe I've read that Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens is usually a difficult species to breed. So maybe that is commonplace for them. As for the others, maybe it's the time of year. Could be natural humidity levels or anything, really. Other than my theory on the GBB, I'm clueless, so pay no attention to me.

Gbb can be difficult and are very aggresive towards the males.

These species really need a getting to know you period before mating. I've mated mine in the past some successfull and some not so. I've only got one to drop a sac onceand that turned bad.

Place the male in with the female inside a smaller cadge for at least a week befreo letting him out then leave them togetehr for anotehr couple of days they will then eitehr mate or she will eat him.


as for the others there are many reasons why they won't mate

temps are not right etc.
the female may be comming up to a moult
She may allready be mated and not interested in the male.
The male could be a duff.
etc etc etc
 

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I am going to move both of the males to a slightly warmer room for a couple of days to see if that helps get the blood flowing, so to speak.

The next time I put the GBBs together, I will try to get it on video. I have often heard of the female GBBs being very aggressive towards the males, but out girl is going crazy for a man; and not in the aggro sense.

I have thought about co-habitating them, but I like to photograph spider porn; not to mention make sure the job gets done.
 

David Burns

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You could let the male check out some spider porn, then he might be more interested. ;) Seriously though, I had to put my parahybanas together every week for 8 weeks before they went at it and then it took 5 seconds. My GBBs would tap to each other when I shark caged him in with her. Then when they were together she would tap and he was eager but she wouldn't let him get under her. I left him in with her for a week and separated them. She flipped over to molt and died. Drat!!
 

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Hey Lauren if all else fails maybe we can switch male GBB's down the road as a last resort? might be worth a shot, also Chris has a male coming to him this week and if he survives his female I was told by the males owner that I can have a crack at him... Greg
 

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G_Wright said:
Gbb
The male could be a duff.
etc etc etc
what does "duff" mean in this instance? my mom's maiden name is duff and i like to tease her about it
 

Crunchie

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hehe my male Chile Rose is named "Duffy" {D however despite having only one palp he is no "duff" ;)
 

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Last I heard, mating with an unwilling partner is called RAPE! :rolleyes:
 

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bagheera said:
Last I heard, mating with an unwilling partner is called RAPE! :rolleyes:
Ok. No more Lime for your coke!! :}
I noticed both Bearskin10 and Spider monkey are pretty close in location of each other. Is there anything going on with the weather?
 

Jasonic

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Well...it is interesting that both our GBB and Hirsutum pairings have turned up cold a the same time. I'll try to breed some of our other old reliables to see if they are willing. Maybe its barameteric pressure!:)

lol.

SM and I will keep you all posted,

-jasonic
 
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