How do I strenghten a Spider's bite or its poison?

[dragonfire1577]

I mean why not just fight beetles? Spider fighting seems a little hard to understand personally, as you might as well just be killing some spiders for entertainment, though I do understand it may be more acceptable in other cultures. I know I would definitely prefer to watch the complex fighting behavior of large stag beetles instead of two freaked out spiders biting each other after being forced together. Stag and rhino beetles have interesting fights that almost always result in a clear winner with no harm to either animal involved. Nothing like watching two huge male stags size each other up and lock mandibles, it's so crazy to see how specialized the males have become due to mate selection pressures.

 

[DaveM]

i’m in the hobby because I have deep respect for the animal’s intelligence, beauty and behavior, the fact that they’re also predators is totally inconsequential to me much in the same way that I don’t care that my cats or beta fish are also obligate carnivores

We might not be in disagreement: I am talking about deep respect for the animal's behavior, including its predatory behavior. You're not suggesting that respect for this aspect of animal behavior could only be a pathological fixation on killing, are you?

I don't think @Patarew is a bad guy if he grew up with this as part of his culture. I grew up tossing insects into spider webs, and with a scientific fascination in the manifold adaptations that different spider species have evolved to survive, in prey capture as much as in any of their other behaviors.

 

[The Snark]

When i was in elementary there are people selling spiders to the children. I buy from them and will fight other kids. Its like pokemon. I dont even like dog fights. Maybe because i grow up with spider fighting that I got used to it.

Hey there. Don't let the negativity get to you here. There be spider lovers here and they will be happy to flame anyone and make them feel like dirt if their beloved hobby gets an animal cruelty slant. They are quite a distance more removed from the rude realities of the world than say, average person in the third world. Animal baiting and fighting goes on all the time. No stopping it.
I had a job as vet assistant one summer. Putting animals down was part of my job. Then working horses I've put my bullets in seven foreheads so far. Smacking animals upside the head with a tire iron or machete is another duty I dislike to the max. But it's reality. Just don't expect the flamers on web sites to get a grip on it any time soon.

My darling little Tiger, a kitten that loved to ride in the basket on my bike. Tried to play with the tire of my jeep as I backed up. One good swing with a machete and so long, little bud. Make good fertilizer. Never gets any easier but it's a part of life out there closer to the edge.

 

[Patarew]

I mean why not just fight beetles? Spider fighting seems a little hard to understand personally, as you might as well just be killing some spiders for entertainment, though I do understand it may be more acceptable in other cultures. I know I would definitely prefer to watch the complex fighting behavior of large stag beetles instead of two freaked out spiders biting each other after being forced together. Stag and rhino beetles have interesting fights that almost always result in a clear winner with no harm to either animal involved. Nothing like watching two huge male stags size each other up and lock mandibles, it's so crazy to see how specialized the males have become due to mate selection pressures.

Well I dont know how to fight with beetles. I mean I tried catching a beetle but when i bring it with my friends they laugh at me saying "what will you do with it" we dont know that beetles even fight when we were kids. I just know that you just need a stick and a spider to have fun when Im a kid. I love spiders so much man.

 

[The Snark]

Well I dont know how to fight with beetles.

Around here. They know their beetles. They know when males are desperate for a mate and the best time of day. Put two on the stick and off they go. Take bets!

 

[dragonfire1577]

Look into stag beetles in the genus Dorcus, they are likely available to you in the Philippines. You pretty much just place two males up on a log and they will lock jaws and wrestle until one flips the other off or the weaker one gives up and runs away. You can hear how powerful their mouthparts are as they try and rip their opponent off the tree bark. Just gotta be careful handling them, they bite hard. You'll typically see the males size each other up with rhythmic movements of their antennae while fighting too, quite interesting stuff.

 

[The Snark]

And let's not forget keeping Oscars. Friend had one that would jump out of his tank and chow down on a mosquito fish while liying on the table or floor. Little sweethearts.

 

[Patarew]

Ill try to let the kids here if they can find beetles