Dbol's outta fashion these days, all the cool kids are on TRT ( and tren)honestly what kind of a nutter thinks of giving dbol to a spood
Edit: imagine how mad the bodybuilding forum guys would be to hear precious dbol is being wasted on spiders
cool so in a nutshell the justification is whataboutism - i am already critical of and have done political work surrounding competitive human sports, including horse/dog racing, trophy hunting, etc - i already think we should hunt the hunters so would you like to take some guesses as to what i think should happen to people who fight animals? because in my neighborhood people who fight dogs wind up missing
Dumping me back in a P.O.S.T. class, hmm? I'm neutral and still think in cop mode. As the instructor said as we studied the penal code, "The law is the law. There aren't certain codes in bold enlarged type. The judge isn't there seeing the incident and having emotional sentiments. Do not take on the role of judge, jury and executioner."
people who fight animals are in the same boat as pedophiles and neo-nazis - it’s really that cut and dry
I've got Hmong relatives. They are very often callous and cruel. It's a part of their culture born of being an underdog people for centuries. An almost universal pastime is hitting dogs on the head, making them cringe. Children before they can walk learn this form of entertainment. And of course I get on my high horse, a shining example of moral righteousness above such horrible mentality and consequently become a shunned and to be ignored non person in the villages.
i’m Jewish + Romani - i have zero problems confronting my communities about things which should be confronted about - things don’t change unless people stand up and change themI've got Hmong relatives. They are very often callous and cruel. It's a part of their culture born of being an underdog people for centuries. An almost universal pastime is hitting dogs on the head, making them cringe. Children before they can walk learn this form of entertainment. And of course I get on my high horse, a shining example of moral righteousness above such horrible mentality and consequently become a shunned and to be ignored non person in the villages.
One day I mentioned this entertainment and my indignant response to my monk. That I can't get near a dog to pet it. Raise my hand they cringe and avoid me. His reply, "If the dog doesn't cringe it intends to attack and may be rabid."
Welcome to the third world. Open your eyes and leave you moral highground at the doorstep. Things are not always what they seem to be or have caveats attached you don't know about.
But I still love to befriend stray dogs. Heck, I've been a stray dog my entire life come to think of it.
have you seen the movie “don’t breathe”? That scene when the blind guy has the girl tied up and he opens his fridge and grabs a turkey baster… yea. Someones getting spider turkey basted…What is in that vial?
But precluding and getting yourself ostracized in the process is counter productive.
being or feeling ostracized from your community does suck - i myself have been banned from some synagogues because of some criticisms related to Israel and have had people have labeled me a “Haredi extremist” but what’s most important is to always stand up for what is right no matter what - injustice prevails when we say and do nothing
i think there’s a big difference between feeding predatory pets what you have too because their obligate carnivores and animal fights - i mean, i get what you’re saying but I also think people who get off on “feeding responses” and so on might be in the hobby for the wrong reasons
I wouldn't call feeding our tarantulas an 'animal fight' or say that we "get off" on it, but I don't think there's anything wrong with admiring the prowess of an eagle as it dives for a fish. I doubt many people here are saying a little prayer for each roach and thanking it for the sad sacrifice it must make in order to keep our obligate carnivores alive. I cheer for my aggressive feeders. I love watching Phormics and T. apophysis somersaulting through the air after some roach. I don't think it's cruelty. The spiders have to eat, as you say, so there's no added harm in us admiring how they do it.
here too I would make a demarcation between an appreciation for the animal and a pathological fixation on the killing part - i personally am completely indifferent to giving my arachnids their prey and I usually just toss them in and let them have it and go about my business, c’est la vie, it’s just nature
BUT BUT BUT... feeders are different. They're not animals, they're food!
When i was in elementary there are people selling spiders to the children. I buy from them and will fight other kids. Its like pokemon. I dont even like dog fights. Maybe because i grow up with spider fighting that I got used to it.