Help with Honduran tarantula indentification

[Talkenlate04]

Mistakes on location? He was pretty specific about the region it was taken from. I dont see how much more specific we can get.

 

[M.F.Bagaturov]

I mean the info is mistaken by any means (time gone, wrong, etc...)

 

[tony77tony77]

NICE!!! what is it? :? :? :? :?

 

[dangerprone69]

Have you tried matching it up to pics on birdspiders.com? That may at least put you in the ballpark. I'm pretty sure Rick West also lists localities as well.

 

[David_F]

Has anyone checked the World Spider Catalog to see which species are known from the region? Not many from Honduras, specifically.

Okay, so get a list of the known species from Honduras and the surrounding area, compare to available pics (not that it'll really help much), and send a molt to someone (see a couple posts up).

I'd almost bet on Mikhail being right though. I think someone's yanking somebody else's chain about the origin of the spider.

 

[Crotalus]

Hello Richard amd Lelle!

I'm pretty sure it is not Sericopelma spp and I think there is some mistake with the origin of this tarantula, that's explainsw all.

I havent sad Sericopelma have I?
Allthough that is a plausable genus aswell as others in the area. You simply guessing here. I would take a look on the spermatheca, a better way to know a little more on what it might be and not be then read a bunch of maybes here.
And discount the locale might help you but not the guy who brought it back from Honduras.
Atleast Im pretty sure he knows where he was on holiday in Central America.

 

[dangerprone69]

I did a little research at World Spider Catalog, and although Lasiodora is primarily a South American genus there are 8 species which occur in Central America. 5 in Costa Rica (brevibulba, carinata, icecu, puriscal, rubitarsa), 2 in Panama (panamana, parvior) and 1 in Belize (gutzkei). Unfortunately I couldn't find any pics or descriptions of these species.

 

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Hello!

I havent sad Sericopelma have I? .

O.k., yes, You was not. Next time I should write: "Hello Richard, not hello Lelle"? Does this suits You, Lelle? ;P

Allthough that is a plausable genus aswell as others in the area. You simply guessing here. I would take a look on the spermatheca, a better way to know a little more on what it might be and not be then read a bunch of maybes here.
And discount the locale might help you but not the guy who brought it back from Honduras.
Atleast Im pretty sure he knows where he was on holiday in Central America.

I see Your point and yes, I agree with You, but all can be happens through these years gone...
Yes, the spermo should give an general idea, but to You or me or some others, there's the pic? Have You seen it? No...
And to examine the specimen at least it's molt even be much better but I'm afraid me and You can't do that...

So, we still have a wide guess about the possible relation of this speciemen to the genus (which is questionable), not species, so yes, we're just simply guessing indeed and would do the same again and again...
I think sometimes any help is valuable and only doing something You will come to some conclusions one day, my old friend...

 

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Hello!

I did a little research at World Spider Catalog, and although Lasiodora is primarily a South American genus there are 8 species which occur in Central America. 5 in Costa Rica (brevibulba, carinata, icecu, puriscal, rubitarsa), 2 in Panama (panamana, parvior) and 1 in Belize (gutzkei). Unfortunately I couldn't find any pics or descriptions of these species.

Unfortunately most of these species are known only from the descriptions or if all good - from the type specimens (if any)...
Unfortunately my site is down again I have a theraphosids listed to the regions section and no Lasiodora has been listed for Honduras so far and not any official report was published regarding possible findings.

BTW. L. gutzkei's description is found online wihout problems... and also the pic of L.puriscal by Carlos Viques , which is I believe not Lasiodora, but more close related to Metriopelma genus, the same as the trinitatis and many other old-time described "Lasiodora"s.

 

[Crotalus]

Hello!

O.k., yes, You was not. Next time I should write: "Hello Richard, not hello Lelle"? Does this suits You, Lelle? ;P

No that would be mean...
I just misread your post

I see Your point and yes, I agree with You, but all can be happens through these years gone...
Yes, the spermo should give an general idea, but to You or me or some others, there's the pic? Have You seen it? No...
And to examine the specimen at least it's molt even be much better but I'm afraid me and You can't do that...

No, I have not seen it. The advice was given to the owner of the spider of course. And he have full access

So, we still have a wide guess about the possible relation of this speciemen to the genus (which is questionable), not species, so yes, we're just simply guessing indeed and would do the same again and again...
I think sometimes any help is valuable and only doing something You will come to some conclusions one day, my old friend...

Yes help is valuable, but not if you dismiss the locals if the spider dont suit the species you think it might be.
Therefor I suggested he take a look at the next molt and/or send the molt to someone who might help him.

 

[mitchell123]

I'm going for Acanthoscurria minor.

 

[Trace]

I appreciate all the help guys. I will wait for the thing to molt out but it may be a few months or longer. Do you have any contact info to who I should send it to? Also, where is this world tarantula database? Thanks again!

 

[David_F]

Also, where is this world tarantula database?

World Spider Catalog

 

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Hello!

I'm going for Acanthoscurria minor.

Are You joking?

http://gea.free.fr/old/descr_acanthoscurriasimoensi.htm

Than it should be bad joke...

 

[M.F.Bagaturov]

Than hello Lelle again

Yes, this maybe not correct statement from me regarding the misplacing of the origin, but IMHO this highly possible...
And I believe time will tell.

to Trace.
Several persons I know can help with identification are based in Europe\UK...
Rick West maybe would be the closest person to Your place.
Also contact Eric Reynolds - he may help also with it I believe. He can be found here as "GoTerps".

 

[mitchell123]

I could be import.

http://www.birdspiders.com/archive/15AFF9C7KD0B7KAEC2K14882ACA0E21FE2E.html

 

[Becky]

Something screams Lasiodora to me.. BUT the only group of T's, that i've seen with that little tuft of hair before the abdomen are the Euathlus genus...

Hmmm.. its huge though!

Maybe get hold of Ray Gabriel? Or Soren? Richard G? All these people are probably better at helping u out lol