HELP! Ceratogyrus darlingi sling in critical condition!

[Oumriel]

This is my mom's account, I'm not allowed to have forum accounts yet because I'm only 11 but she said I could post here after reading about your C. darlingi getting sick.
I'm sorry your tarantula died, I would be pretty sad if any of mine died. I think your sling maybe was dehydrated. You have to remember that little slings don't even have a drop worth of water in their tiny body and a drop of water can evaporate pretty fast. You said that he was getting better when he was in your ICU container, I think you should have left it there for at least a few days rather than move it out when it was doing better and then back when it was getting sick again. You shouldn't blow on your tarantulas because they have little hairs all over their body for detecting vibrations. When you blow on them you are making all of those hairs move all at once and my mom says its like someone taking a can of air and pointing at your face. Not nice. I don't think you should breed tarantulas until you know more about them. I want to breed them too but I was reading the other day about making different seasons happen to get them ready and to make the female lay an egg sack. It looks like more work than just putting two spiders together and hoping it all works out. I don't think you should buy any more tarantulas right now either. I looked on your profile and it says that three have died? That's kind of a lot, you should read more about the species you have instead of buying more.
Dont be mad because I said that, it's just not a good thing when animals die because of something that could have been fixed.

 

[Keith B]

This is my mom's account, I'm not allowed to have forum accounts yet because I'm only 11 but she said I could post here after reading about your C. darlingi getting sick.
I'm sorry your tarantula died, I would be pretty sad if any of mine died. I think your sling maybe was dehydrated. You have to remember that little slings don't even have a drop worth of water in their tiny body and a drop of water can evaporate pretty fast. You said that he was getting better when he was in your ICU container, I think you should have left it there for at least a few days rather than move it out when it was doing better and then back when it was getting sick again. You shouldn't blow on your tarantulas because they have little hairs all over their body for detecting vibrations. When you blow on them you are making all of those hairs move all at once and my mom says its like someone taking a can of air and pointing at your face. Not nice. I don't think you should breed tarantulas until you know more about them. I want to breed them too but I was reading the other day about making different seasons happen to get them ready and to make the female lay an egg sack. It looks like more work than just putting two spiders together and hoping it all works out. I don't think you should buy any more tarantulas right now either. I looked on your profile and it says that three have died? That's kind of a lot, you should read more about the species you have instead of buying more.
Dont be mad because I said that, it's just not a good thing when animals die because of something that could have been fixed.

Your maturity at only 11 years of age impresses me and my fiancee very much. She insisted I pop on and praise you for such a great post. You and your mom are a wonderful asset to this hobby. Never stop learning. It sounds like you know so much already!

 

[Oumriel]

You're maturity at only 11 years of age impresses me and my fiancee very much. She insisted I pop on and praise you for such a great post. You and your mom are a wonderful asset to this hobby. Never stop learning. It sounds like you know so much already!

Thank you for the wonderful complement! My daughter spent the better part of an hour writing that post.

 

[klawfran3]

This is my mom's account, I'm not allowed to have forum accounts yet because I'm only 11 but she said I could post here after reading about your C. darlingi getting sick.
I'm sorry your tarantula died, I would be pretty sad if any of mine died. I think your sling maybe was dehydrated. You have to remember that little slings don't even have a drop worth of water in their tiny body and a drop of water can evaporate pretty fast. You said that he was getting better when he was in your ICU container, I think you should have left it there for at least a few days rather than move it out when it was doing better and then back when it was getting sick again. You shouldn't blow on your tarantulas because they have little hairs all over their body for detecting vibrations. When you blow on them you are making all of those hairs move all at once and my mom says its like someone taking a can of air and pointing at your face. Not nice. I don't think you should breed tarantulas until you know more about them. I want to breed them too but I was reading the other day about making different seasons happen to get them ready and to make the female lay an egg sack. It looks like more work than just putting two spiders together and hoping it all works out. I don't think you should buy any more tarantulas right now either. I looked on your profile and it says that three have died? That's kind of a lot, you should read more about the species you have instead of buying more.
Dont be mad because I said that, it's just not a good thing when animals die because of something that could have been fixed.

you are very mature for an eleven year old. And I agree with Keith; Your knowledge at this age exceeds more than most people I know! keep on keeping on!

 

[Keith B]

Thank you for the wonderful complement! My daughter spent the better part of an hour writing that post.

It definitely gets our vote for cutest post of the year, especially when all of her points are very good

 

[Driller64]

You said that he was getting better when he was in your ICU container, I think you should have left it there for at least a few days rather than move it out when it was doing better and then back when it was getting sick again.

I believe that was my mistake as well. I should have left it in the ICU for the whole day, rather than when I thought it was getting better. I probably kept it in there long enough for it gain a supply of water to keep itself going, not enough to keep it functioning on a more permanent level.

Again, I am going to be completely abstaining from tarantula buying and the hobby in general for a while, and focusing on the ones I still have. To fill the void, I am also focusing on other hobbies of mine, such as cacti. In fact, I planted a batch of Geohintonia mexicana seeds just yesterday. I hope they actually germinate this time unlike this one batch of Aztekium hintonii seeds I planted two weeks ago which I threw out yesterday

 

[CitizenNumber9]

Thank you for the wonderful complement! My daughter spent the better part of an hour writing that post.

She has better spelling, grammar, and punctuation than most teenagers and adults I know. She must do well in school and I'm guessing she reads a lot as well

 

[Storm76]

I just read through 4 pages of...advice given and some very nice post from a very young hobbyist, which makes me wonder why so many ADULTS lack the common sense that that teenager shows!

I'm the first to admit that I dove straight in, my collection grew very quickly and I started right away with a juvenile P. irminia. Never once have I asked for advice on this board and NOT accepted it. In fact, it's what helped me become better - aside the fact that I do research a whole lot in my free time and did so for a freaking year before I got my first T.

So, a sling isn't an adult tarantula, but it is very easy to take care of and raise if one follow's advice given, or finds some way that seemingly works like a char for them, while not putting the tarantula in distress. All the time fuzzing over a tiny sling, poking, prodding and even blowing on it makes me cringe! I've some videos up in which I do prod this or that specimen, but always for a reason, never for fun and most importantly: I leave them alone and just watch them aside the vid.

After reading all this I'm going to ask your: Do you think you have the necessary patience that this hobby requires?

Don't get me wrong, I can be stubborn, I can be impatient, too. But never at the expense of an animal!

 

[Oumriel]

She has better spelling, grammar, and punctuation than most teenagers and adults I know. She must do well in school and I'm guessing she reads a lot as well

Thank you! She does read a lot and we home school, so I get to take advantage of her interests and give her credit for assignments that might otherwise not be seen as an assignment. She did not know how to spell " dehydrate or vibrations" but she looked them up. She asked me to read it a few times as she was making corrections. She wanted to make sure that it didn't sound mean and before she went to bed she said "I hope he doesn't get mad because I said he shouldn't get another tarantula." How many people worry about hurting someone elses feelings when they post a comment? I found it to be an interesting statement and I have been guilty of that as well.

 

[CitizenNumber9]

Thank you! She does read a lot and we home school, so I get to take advantage of her interests and give her credit for assignments that might otherwise not be seen as an assignment. She did not know how to spell " dehydrate or vibrations" but she looked them up. She asked me to read it a few times as she was making corrections. She wanted to make sure that it didn't sound mean and before she went to bed she said "I hope he doesn't get mad because I said he shouldn't get another tarantula." How many people worry about hurting someone elses feelings when they post a comment? I found it to be an interesting statement and I have been guilty of that as well.

She sounds like she is very smart. I have a feeling that is due to the fact that rather than getting thrown into a room full of 20 other kids all being taught at the same, slow snail's pace, she is getting one-on-one learning at her own pace through homeschooling. Sometimes I wish my parentshad done the same thing but if they had, I'd have never met my highschool sweetheart and fiancé :sarcasm:

It's good also that she wanted to have someone check over her work - when I was younger and in school I wouldnt even check over my own, convinced that if I'd made a mistake that it wasn't worth the time lost to fix it. (I both used to and still do have a superiority complex ). It says a lot of good things about her character that she was concerned about the feelings about someone that a lot of us would prefer to through a stick in their path if we saw them rollerblading :biggrin:

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PS: The fact that she went to look up a word she didn't know rather than ask someone else should make Viper69 pretty happy :biggrin:

 

[klawfran3]

I just read through 4 pages of...advice given and some very nice post from a very young hobbyist, which makes me wonder why so many ADULTS lack the common sense that that teenager shows!

I'm the first to admit that I dove straight in, my collection grew very quickly and I started right away with a juvenile P. irminia. Never once have I asked for advice on this board and NOT accepted it. In fact, it's what helped me become better - aside the fact that I do research a whole lot in my free time and did so for a freaking year before I got my first T.

So, a sling isn't an adult tarantula, but it is very easy to take care of and raise if one follow's advice given, or finds some way that seemingly works like a char for them, while not putting the tarantula in distress. All the time fuzzing over a tiny sling, poking, prodding and even blowing on it makes me cringe! I've some videos up in which I do prod this or that specimen, but always for a reason, never for fun and most importantly: I leave them alone and just watch them aside the vid.

After reading all this I'm going to ask your: Do you think you have the necessary patience that this hobby requires?

Don't get me wrong, I can be stubborn, I can be impatient, too. But never at the expense of an animal!

This. I don't know HOW many times I messed up when I first started. All I know is that every bit of advice I've received has helped me get better in some way. I always try to listen to advice even if I don't want to, because the people who have been here longer usually know more.

 

[Driller64]

She wanted to make sure that it didn't sound mean and before she went to bed she said "I hope he doesn't get mad because I said he shouldn't get another tarantula."

Tell her that I am not mad, In fact I agree with her. As much as I would like to get another tarantula, I think that I should raise the ones I have to adulthood or at least to a reasonable size (which should not be long since L. parahybana and C. cyaneopubecens are pretty fast growing), then talk about getting more.


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Sorry darlings, it looks like the day you and me will meet will have to wait

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I'm going to go a little off topic here and vent about something shortly after I posted my last post on this thread. I sent it from Film Appreciation, where we are watching Dr. No. I saw the part the with the tarantula and after it, I was silently fuming. Aside from thinking, "um.. that's not going to work", I hoped that they did not actually kill the spider. I mean, I have no problem with James Bond, but why is it that Hollywood must sensationalize harmless animals that "look scary" or "are evil"? All this does is encourage people to kill these poor spiders (among other animals) that don't deserve it! Was anyone else pissed off by this scene?

 

[awiec]

Tell her that I am not mad, In fact I agree with her. As much as I would like to get another tarantula, I think that I should raise the ones I have to adulthood or at least to a reasonable size (which should not be long since L. parahybana and C. cyaneopubecens are pretty fast growing), then talk about getting more.


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Sorry darlings, it looks like the day you and me will meet will have to wait

On the bright side there is a constant supply of them. My female who I believe is an adult at 4 inches I plan on breeding in a year or two when I have a place of my own. If I'm still kicking around here then there will be a little influx of them on this cite. If you don't kill any more, I have no qualms with sending you one along with another member who lost his collection to his daughter spraying raid on accident and his heater going out. I think you have the right mind set for this hobby; you have had a few rough steps, which its sad the spiders paid the price BUT all you can do is give your current ones the best life they can have.

 

[Driller64]

If you don't kill any more, I have no qualms with sending you one

If I decide to buy from you, could you wait until they are 1"? I don't feel comfortable with handling anything under that after this incident.

 

[cold blood]

[/COLOR]I'm going to go a little off topic here and vent about something shortly after I posted my last post on this thread. I sent it from Film Appreciation, where we are watching Dr. No. I saw the part the with the tarantula and after it, I was silently fuming. Aside from thinking, "um.. that's not going to work", I hoped that they did not actually kill the spider. I mean, I have no problem with James Bond, but why is it that Hollywood must sensationalize harmless animals that "look scary" or "are evil"? All this does is encourage people to kill these poor spiders (among other animals) that don't deserve it! Was anyone else pissed off by this scene?

That movie is from 1962 and is even old for Bond...I believe it was the first James Bond movie....appreciate the film (and a young Sean Connery), that scene was part of the reason the t hobby was "born". No one really knew jack about them back then other than they were big spiders that frightened a lot of people.

Little known is that Sean Connery was an arachnophobe. The scene was originally shot with a piece of glass between him and the t, but when it didn't look realistic enough, his stuntman Bob Simmons filled in. Amazingly, some 20 years later Simmons admitted that that scene was "the scariest stunt [he] ever performed"...lmfao. That t's name was "Rosie" btw.

 

[awiec]

If I decide to buy from you, could you wait until they are 1"? I don't feel comfortable with handling anything under that after this incident.

Shouldn't be an issue, even at .75 of an inch most are past that delicate stage of high mortality. Of course it will be a while before I can breed her as my step-father is not fond of spiders and just tolerates the ones I have. I don't think he can handle a bunch of spiderlings in the house.

 

[Driller64]

Little known is that Sean Connery was an arachnophobe. The scene was originally shot with a piece of glass between him and the t, but when it didn't look realistic enough, his stuntman Bob Simmons filled in. Amazingly, some 20 years later Simmons admitted that that scene was "the scariest stunt [he] ever performed"...lmfao. That t's name was "Rosie" btw.

My Film Appreciation teacher actually told my class all this lol, he always tells us trivia about the movie after we watch it. But one of my questions still remains unanswered: did they actually kill the spider?! PLEASE tell me no!!!!

 

[cold blood]

did they actually kill the spider?! PLEASE tell me no!!!!

I don't know for sure, but my guess is no. Since the t is described as it and not they or them and it had a name...there is NO WAY that was done on the first take, especially with the fear running through the actors blood. Plus the scene was completed by Connery, and done again by Simmons at least that second time. I'm betting that spider didn't die...at least not during the making of the movie

 

[LordWaffle]

On the bright side there is a constant supply of them. My female who I believe is an adult at 4 inches I plan on breeding in a year or two when I have a place of my own. If I'm still kicking around here then there will be a little influx of them on this cite. If you don't kill any more, I have no qualms with sending you one along with another member who lost his collection to his daughter spraying raid on accident and his heater going out. I think you have the right mind set for this hobby; you have had a few rough steps, which its sad the spiders paid the price BUT all you can do is give your current ones the best life they can have.

If you have that mayn extra albiceps, I hae some extra cash

 

[awiec]

If you have that mayn extra albiceps, I hae some extra cash

I was talking about C.darlingi as that is the T that the OP had that died. I wish I was swimming in those though