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AngryMothNoises

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So the story goes... Some years back Steve Nunn of Australia took the time of breeding multiple generations of the Australian tarantulas, and endured the extensive legal work with the Aussie government to legally export some of his CB native tarantulas to the U.S. and a few other countries. He no longer exports, so whatever Australian species we have here now, is all we will see. It seems like Chris Allen (syndicate) and I were the only 2 people who took the time to raise and breed those spiders that Steve exported as, virtually all the Australian spiders on the U.S. market originated from one of us. Unfortunately, the Selenotypus, & Selenotholus that were imported didn't do so well (in my collection at least) and are most likely extinct in the U.S. hobby now. That pretty much leaves us with a variety Phlogius (and C. tropix) species that you see for sale.

Until the other day, I've never heard one of my Phlogius sp. "whistling spiders" produce any sound. They would far rather run down their burrow than stand there ground hissing and drooling venom. While photographing Phlogius sp. "goliath" the other day, I guess I finally made it angry enough to stridulate at the camera. I was impressed.

Since we will no longer have Australian imports, The rattlesnake tarantula that greyzone posted a video of is a spider I wish I could have , but never will, they're so cool.
Later, Tom
Well then I must say thank you for pretty much helping thoughs Ts get into this hobby here in the USA. Thats pretty cool to know! And I bet it must feel pretty awesome to know that your one of the people most of these Tarantulas pretty much came from.
 

Storm76

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It's easier to a) check through the classifieds, or b) just make a thread asking if someone sells them. One thing I can tell, is that you sure picked one of the most defensive species out there - plus being from Aussie, it's bite is probably extremely painful, lol.

As for Avicularias...yeah, I do plan to get a good bunch of those available really, but currently searching my rear off for an A. juruensis and can't find even a SINGLE one for the love of god...GRRR !
 

grayzone

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but currently searching my rear off for an A. juruensis and can't find even a SINGLE one for the love of god...GRRR !
good to see youre keepin the dream alive bro.. i know I would still love a couple too

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at times i see people searching for MMs
I also saw a female available once .. kinda price though. If it werent for these factors, id doubt they exist lol
 

AngryMothNoises

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One thing I can tell, is that you sure picked one of the most defensive species out there - plus being from Aussie, it's bite is probably extremely painful, lol.
;w; oh joy. Wont mom be happy. She wasn't happy at all when I told her that most of my Ts are defensive.... So she told me. "no mean spiders!" She does like my P.iminia though.
 

groovyspider

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also too... theres alot of animals found in australia can be found in the solomon islands not every single one but a good bit of them
 

zonbonzovi

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Subspinipes gigantea. I've been told time and again that its illegal to own in Canada, even though it doesnt show up on CITES.

Wish someone could make my day:(
It doesn't show up on CITES because it is Scolopendra gigantea. 'subspinipes', like gigantea, indicates a species.
 

Storm76

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good to see youre keepin the dream alive bro.. i know I would still love a couple too

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at times i see people searching for MMs
I also saw a female available once .. kinda price though. If it werent for these factors, id doubt they exist lol
No kidding! It's SO hard to find them over here - I've seen Spiderlings for $50 and up a couple months ago, but I passed on them due to their high price for 1st instars...now I could bite my rear that I did! Saw a juvie female one for $180 and was like WTH? Anyways, I sent out some mails to some breeders over here inquiring about them...maybe I get lucky, Steven! I did just order my 1st P. subfusca "lowland" though :D:D:D


;w; oh joy. Wont mom be happy. She wasn't happy at all when I told her that most of my Ts are defensive.... So she told me. "no mean spiders!" She does like my P.iminia though.
Well, basically everything Old-World (OUTSIDE the US) is a) defensive to a certain degree, b) has more potent venom and c) is not a good idea to handle unless you don't care about getting bitten...
 

pocock1899

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Usually it means the original ones were. A lot of our most popular pets are from Australia. Budgies (parakeets) and bearded dragons are 2 great examples.
FYI.
While some of the early lines of bearded dragons were likely smuggled, budgies were not. They started coming out of Australia in the mid-1800's, back when Australia was first colonized. Australia didn't become federated until 1901, and wildlife law prohibiting export didn't happen until the Fauna Protection Act of 1948.
 

AngryMothNoises

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Well, basically everything Old-World (OUTSIDE the US) is a) defensive to a certain degree, b) has more potent venom and c) is not a good idea to handle unless you don't care about getting bitten...
Pretty much! Though she knows I don't handle any of them other then my G.rosea. (and I once handled my P.iminia).

But yeah! that okay! I don't mind sticking to docile Ts...
 

Thistles

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FYI.
While some of the early lines of bearded dragons were likely smuggled, budgies were not. They started coming out of Australia in the mid-1800's, back when Australia was first colonized. Australia didn't become federated until 1901, and wildlife law prohibiting export didn't happen until the Fauna Protection Act of 1948.
Hence my "usually" instead of "absolutely always."
 

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I've felt that with peacock spiders, the vegetarian jumping spiders and even some reptiles like the lace monitor. I just collect pictures I find on the internet of them..
 

RockinOutAmber

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I've felt that with peacock spiders, the vegetarian jumping spiders and even some reptiles like the lace monitor. I just collect pictures I find on the internet of them..
Aww I didn't know peacock spiders were from Australia. Darn. They are the cutest spiders ever.
 

dactylus

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So the story goes... Some years back Steve Nunn of Australia took the time of breeding multiple generations of the Australian tarantulas, and endured the extensive legal work with the Aussie government to legally export some of his CB native tarantulas to the U.S. and a few other countries. He no longer exports, so whatever Australian species we have here now, is all we will see. It seems like Chris Allen (syndicate) and I were the only 2 people who took the time to raise and breed those spiders that Steve exported as, virtually all the Australian spiders on the U.S. market originated from one of us. Unfortunately, the Selenotypus, & Selenotholus that were imported didn't do so well (in my collection at least) and are most likely extinct in the U.S. hobby now. That pretty much leaves us with a variety Phlogius (and C. tropix) species that you see for sale.

Until the other day, I've never heard one of my Phlogius sp. "whistling spiders" produce any sound. They would far rather run down their burrow than stand there ground hissing and drooling venom. While photographing Phlogius sp. "goliath" the other day, I guess I finally made it angry enough to stridulate at the camera. I was impressed.

Since we will no longer have Australian imports, The rattlesnake tarantula that greyzone posted a video of is a spider I wish I could have , but never will, they're so cool.
Later, Tom
Tom,

I for one am extremely grateful that you and Chris are producing the variety of Aussie spiders that you are!! Thank you for your excellent work and your superb arachno breeding skills!! The spiders that I've gotten from both of you guys are "top notch" in quality!!

I keep hoping that someone else in Australia will pick up the torch and undergo the hassle involved in exporting invertebrates from Australia to the rest of the world. I'm not holding my breath, but I am still hopeful.

Thank you Tom!!

David Lawrence
 

k2power

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On the topic of Australian Phlogius. What exactly is Phlogius yamia. I picked up a spiderling one of these in a lot a few months back and haven't gotten anything close to an answer on what it is. Is it Australian? It looks like P. crassipes. Phlogius yamia doesn't seem to be a real name, so I don't know at all what it is. Mine is sitll too small to make noise and is at most 3/4" in diameter. I have kept it moist and it eats great.
 
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