Has anyone had a ruptured abdomen pull through?

[Wolfram1]

Thanks for sharing your experiences with this!! I’m sorry to hear about your pokie! That is one benefit of crickets, that they aren’t terribly good at hiding, whereas roaches seem to find a way to hide from Ts. The male crickets also like to sing so that helps locate them too.

I did pre kill prey for slings before but ugh I can’t imagine doing it to big prey!

Np, it showed me how important having the feeders "under control" really is, same with posts like yours. I dislike it very much as well, but unless getting them back out is effortless it has got to be done. Your case is a perfect example why.

I posted this before but i find grabbing any feeder behind the neck, holding it against the side of a plastic container, and twisting it in such a way that the head physically can't follow the movement of the body twists it right off. It's still gruesome but its quick and permanent and doesn't fail like crushing the head often does. Its also much easier to grab them behind the head than on it.

Whether you try to help it recover or not, perhaps give us a final update on its fate. That would help as this thread could inform anyone that may run into the same situation in the future. Thx

 

[habronattus8]

Np, it showed me how important having the feeders "under control" really is, same with posts like yours. I dislike it very much as well, but unless getting them back out is effortless it has got to be done. Your case is a perfect example why.

I posted this before but i find grabbing any feeder behind the neck, holding it against the side of a plastic container, and twisting it in such a way that the head physically can't follow the movement of the body twists it right off. It's still gruesome but its quick and permanent and doesn't fail like crushing the head often does. Its also much easier to grab them behind the head than on it.

Whether you try to help it recover or not, perhaps give us a final update on its fate. That would help as this thread could inform anyone that may run into the same situation in the future. Thx

I get that. Will do! She’s still alive at the moment.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I get that. Will do! She’s still alive at the moment.

Did you push the internals back in and new skin the wound? Otherwise it’s a goner..

 

[Kada]

Highly suggest not pushing them "back in" or touching nit at all. That protrusion is already hard and any push or bump is going to ctack the seem and likely cause kore to come out. Don't bandage it (they are hairy, it won't work well) . All those things will likely just kill it faster.

My opinion is absolutely don't touch it. Pokies are fine on the dry side, so keep it that way.

If it's hardened my bet is it can possibly survive like that, but the next molt is really going to be a problem. I would probably also keep it on the lean side and not feed til it's fat just to keep the pressure down.

Also for those suggesting dubia, I’m curious why you think they wouldn’t do the same thing? I’ve seen roaches eating each other alive and especially while molting, and they’ll really bite into anything moist. So I wonder if that would actually prevent this kind of thing?

The mouths of dubia are far smaller than that of most feeder cricket species. Crickets can be borderline predatory and are just far more "agressive" in general. They kill and gnaw on protein. back in my reptile days I had 10s of thousands of acheta breeding, they would eventually chew through 3/4" plywood, plastic tossed, aluminum screen etc. roaches not so much.

I've seen red runners eat spiderling avicularia, it's still a risk. I prekill everything for that reason. except the odd time a single red runner is put in to an enclosure that is more sparse as they do not bury underground like dubia and can be removed with ease.

The argument is in the wild they don't need prekilled. But in the wild they aren't confined at all and may also help explain why some spiders have over a thousand eggs in captivity we do confine them, limiting escape, as well as expecting a near 100% survival rate. our husbandry methods and habits need to reflect those realities.

 

[TheraMygale]

I would put it in the freezer. Atleast that way you can still keep the tarantula after. Its a sad way to go, but leaking out is the long way to go.

if by miracle it survived, more problems would happen. And the next molt could be really bad.

im straight forward. I have tobe. Or else i get to emotional.

my bluntness comes from a place of kindness.

unless you witnessed the crickets doing their bad deed, abdomen could have also ruptured naturaly.

i trust no live prey over another.

I am sorry this happened to your tarantula. Don’t be hard on yourself. Its not going to change anything.

 

[habronattus8]

Did you push the internals back in and new skin the wound? Otherwise it’s a goner..

I actually did try that with a clean Q tip, but realized quickly that it wouldn’t work sadly.

Highly suggest not pushing them "back in" or touching nit at all. That protrusion is already hard and any push or bump is going to ctack the seem and likely cause kore to come out. Don't bandage it (they are hairy, it won't work well) . All those things will likely just kill it faster.

My opinion is absolutely don't touch it. Pokies are fine on the dry side, so keep it that way.

If it's hardened my bet is it can possibly survive like that, but the next molt is really going to be a problem. I would probably also keep it on the lean side and not feed til it's fat just to keep the pressure down.









The mouths of dubia are far smaller than that of most feeder cricket species. Crickets can be borderline predatory and are just far more "agressive" in general. They kill and gnaw on protein. back in my reptile days I had 10s of thousands of acheta breeding, they would eventually chew through 3/4" plywood, plastic tossed, aluminum screen etc. roaches not so much.

I've seen red runners eat spiderling avicularia, it's still a risk. I prekill everything for that reason. except the odd time a single red runner is put in to an enclosure that is more sparse as they do not bury underground like dubia and can be removed with ease.

The argument is in the wild they don't need prekilled. But in the wild they aren't confined at all and may also help explain why some spiders have over a thousand eggs in captivity we do confine them, limiting escape, as well as expecting a near 100% survival rate. our husbandry methods and habits need to reflect those realities.

Thanks for your experience and this great information! I’ve basically been doing nothing like you suggest. I’m grateful that she’s still alive. The guts are now almost black and dryish and smaller. Since it’s dry, I’ve been able to just keep her on flat toilet paper. I definitely don’t want to let her rub against a cork bark or anything right now. I haven’t seen her drinking but I think she had a small sip because her abdomen looks slightly less shrunken.

Even if she does miraculously survive, like you say, I have no idea how she could ever pull through the next molt… Because the new exoskeleton couldn’t grow under or over the mass.

I’m definitely seriously considering dubia. One of my reservations is also that they always hide out and so it might be even harder to know that they haven’t been eaten and could continue to be a danger to the T. Also because some Ts want the food to basically jump right into their mouth and might go hungry if they don’t haha.

I would put it in the freezer. Atleast that way you can still keep the tarantula after. Its a sad way to go, but leaking out is the long way to go.

if by miracle it survived, more problems would happen. And the next molt could be really bad.

im straight forward. I have tobe. Or else i get to emotional.

my bluntness comes from a place of kindness.

unless you witnessed the crickets doing their bad deed, abdomen could have also ruptured naturaly.

i trust no live prey over another.

I am sorry this happened to your tarantula. Don’t be hard on yourself. Its not going to change anything.

Thanks for your advice/sympathy! It’s totally a sad situation but hoping for the best.

 

[cold blood]

I’m definitely seriously considering dubia. One of my reservations is also that they always hide out and so it might be even harder to know that they haven’t been eaten

crush their heads and leave them on their back....with a crushed head they cant burrow away, and by putting them on their backs it often prevents them from righting themselves.