H Longipes MM second molt???

[Melly]

 

[OldFlash]

I’d say maybe a sperm web. Can you give a bit more context? I can’t quite figure out what I’m looking at.. I mean, I can see the male on his back but what’s with all the water? And what is he inside of?
Just curious.

 

[Melly]

I’d say maybe a sperm web. Can you give a bit more context? I can’t quite figure out what I’m looking at.. I mean, I can see the male on his back but what’s with all the water? And what is he inside of?
Just curious.

He’s in a small plastic container. Yes, that’s water. I thought he was dead. His carapace had popped off. Because of him being a MM, I didn’t think another molt was even possible. I tossed out the substrate and saw his pedipalps twitch. Then I put a few drops of water in, put his mouth on the water… having no idea how to assist. He twitched, and I put him on his back. Flashlight.. and I could see he is truly trying to molt. Incredible.

 

[OldFlash]

He’s in a small plastic container. Yes, that’s water. I thought he was dead. His carapace had popped off. Because of him being a MM, I didn’t think another molt was even possible. I tossed out the substrate and saw his pedipalps twitch. Then I put a few drops of water in, put his mouth on the water… having no idea how to assist. He twitched, and I put him on his back. Flashlight.. and I could see he is truly trying to molt. Incredible.

Pictures?? I would love to see some pictures!!

 

[viper69]

Some Ts make it to a second molt, most usually die in the process but not all.

 

[OldFlash]

Some Ts make it to a second molt, most usually die in the process but not all.

Hope she will have some pictures, specially if he made it out alive. The few cases I’ve seen.. it ain’t pretty

 

[viper69]

Hope she will have some pictures, specially if he made it out alive. The few cases I’ve seen.. it ain’t pretty

Had it happen once- agree

 

[Melly]

Hope she will have some pictures, specially if he made it out alive. The few cases I’ve seen.. it ain’t pretty

 

[Melly]

He’s still twitching. Definitely stuck in his molt. I hope these satisfy the photo requests

 

[Arachnophobphile]

He’s still twitching. Definitely stuck in his molt. I hope these satisfy the photo requests

You will not be able to free him totally encased in his old molt. This happened to my mm A. chalcodes and I had to euthanize him. I put him in a plastic container and kept him in the freezer for a couple of days.

That was an extremely sad day for me as I loved that little guy.

 

[Melly]

You will not be able to free him totally encased in his old molt. This happened to my mm A. chalcodes and I had to euthanize him. I put him in a plastic container and kept him in the freezer for a couple of days.

That was an extremely sad day for me as I loved that little guy.

Oh… I’m so sorry
I’m getting ready to assist with his passing shortly.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Oh… I’m so sorry
I’m getting ready to assist with his passing shortly.

I'm sorry too it does suck.

My first T was an T. albopilosus and it turned out a mm. He too molted again after his penultimate molt. He got lucky and freed himself but lost his left pedipalp. It's extremely difficult for them to free their pedipalps due to the eboli.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

If his fangs are fully out, and he’s not making progress, you can always try a wet paintbrush. I have seen some here make it out, but with a few less parts (pedipals more often)

 

[Melly]

If his fangs are fully out, and he’s not making progress, you can always try a wet paintbrush. I have seen some here make it out, but with a few less parts (pedipals more often)

No. He has passed. Thank you all for your input.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

If his fangs are fully out, and he’s not making progress, you can always try a wet paintbrush. I have seen some here make it out, but with a few less parts (pedipals more often)

I would say depends on on how long after a mm's penultimate molt to try to remove it. If it's a month or after then I would try.

In the case of mine the A. chalcodes did another molt 2 years after it's penultimate. It was completely encased but was able to free his fangs. Even if I by a miracle freed him he would be in a mangled state and probably his ticket would be up shortly.

In the case of my mm T. albopilosus he molted again after 1.5 years and only lost one pedipalp in the process but passed after a couple of months.

Sometimes euthanizing, as hard as it is to do is more humane.

I can't say to anyone don't try that's up to the person. IMO after evaluating my chalcodes it was more humane to euthanize. Believe me it broke my heart. I was so upset that it brought back memories of my painful experience of when I had to put my dog down. I reclused for a while because it tore me up. I know it's an invertebrate but I was attached to that T, not him to me.

 

[OldFlash]

No. He has passed. Thank you all for your input.

Sorry for you loss Melly. Even though we are aware of the odds, there’s always hope. It’s safe to say he had the best care possible and lived till the very end.

I’d like to thank you for the pictures, must have been tough to take them. But what a great documentation to have.

 

[IntermittentSygnal]

I would say depends on on how long after a mm's penultimate molt to try to remove it. If it's a month or after then I would try.

In the case of mine the A. chalcodes did another molt 2 years after it's penultimate. It was completely encased but was able to free his fangs. Even if I by a miracle freed him he would be in a mangled state and probably his ticket would be up shortly.

In the case of my mm T. albopilosus he molted again after 1.5 years and only lost one pedipalp in the process but passed after a couple of months.

Sometimes euthanizing, as hard as it is to do is more humane.

I can't say to anyone don't try that's up to the person. IMO after evaluating my chalcodes it was more humane to euthanize. Believe me it broke my heart. I was so upset that it brought back memories of my painful experience of when I had to put my dog down. I reclused for a while because it tore me up. I know it's an invertebrate but I was attached to that T, not him to me.

I’m sorry for the loss of your dear pets. They are like family. I kinda feel we are special (in a good way) who can love a creature who we know is incapable of loving us back. Speaks to a selflessness to me. I, too, have had to give the order to put another pet down, but as hard as that is, it’s still harder to me to be the one who has to do it. When I was struggling with euthanizing my Y diversepes, a friend asked me why I just didn’t ask a vet to do it. I had to tell her there were no vets for this. We have to do it ourselves.
You meant ultimate molt, right? Penultimate being the molt before the maturing molt. I fear one of mine in particular attempting to do that. My H pulchripes matured at 3.5” and still eats well. I make sure to give him small meals because of that fear. With attempting to help, I take the hope for the best, prepare for the worst with that. I’d still try what I could, but have the plan in place should that not work.

 

[Melly]

I would say depends on on how long after a mm's penultimate molt to try to remove it. If it's a month or after then I would try.

In the case of mine the A. chalcodes did another molt 2 years after it's penultimate. It was completely encased but was able to free his fangs. Even if I by a miracle freed him he would be in a mangled state and probably his ticket would be up shortly.

In the case of my mm T. albopilosus he molted again after 1.5 years and only lost one pedipalp in the process but passed after a couple of months.

Sometimes euthanizing, as hard as it is to do is more humane.

I can't say to anyone don't try that's up to the person. IMO after evaluating my chalcodes it was more humane to euthanize. Believe me it broke my heart. I was so upset that it brought back memories of my painful experience of when I had to put my dog down. I reclused for a while because it tore me up. I know it's an invertebrate but I was attached to that T, not him to me.

I’m so sorry for your pain. I understand completely. It is hard to take that final, humane step. I have strong attachments to a few of my T’s also. You’re not alone.

 

[Melly]

I’m sorry for the loss of your dear pets. They are like family. I kinda feel we are special (in a good way) who can love a creature who we know is incapable of loving us back. Speaks to a selflessness to me. I, too, have had to give the order to put another pet down, but as hard as that is, it’s still harder to me to be the one who has to do it. When I was struggling with euthanizing my Y diversepes, a friend asked me why I just didn’t ask a vet to do it. I had to tell her there were no vets for this. We have to do it ourselves.
You meant ultimate molt, right? Penultimate being the molt before the maturing molt. I fear one of mine in particular attempting to do that. My H pulchripes matured at 3.5” and still eats well. I make sure to give him small meals because of that fear. With attempting to help, I take the hope for the best, prepare for the worst with that. I’d still try what I could, but have the plan in place should that not work.

Thank you for your words of encouragement. Yes, he was already hooked out and was attempting a second molt. I was shocked. The molt did not include his legs at all. I have a female I was going to pair him with.

 

[Melly]

Sorry for you loss Melly. Even though we are aware of the odds, there’s always hope. It’s safe to say he had the best care possible and lived till the very end.

I’d like to thank you for the pictures, must have been tough to take them. But what a great documentation to have.

Thank you for your kind words. He was greatly admired for his incredible beauty. Absolutely gorgeous. I’m so glad you were able to see the pictures. Such an unusual event.