Grrrrrrrrr...I hate mites...

Phillip

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lol No one said proof reading was for spelling alone there is also grammar included. :)


And yes I do see your point but sadly science hasnt focused on reptile husbandry where the actual keepers of the animals have.

The sad fact is that we are in a small niche as far as the research world goes and reptiles have been mostly neglected by science with the exception of venom research.

Phil
 

minax

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Now................

I do agree with your statement about reptiles not being the focus of enough serious research. That is why I stated, that reptile medical treatment insofar as husbandry, is in the dark ages.It is kind of strange to talk about "grammar", when you have no facts or scientific evidence to support your claims about sevin, just hearsay, (anecdotal evidence). I think you are upset because Alabama got whipped by the Oklahoma Sooners in football!:D :?
 

Phillip

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The heresay as you put it concerning my point on this is no different from the heresay you have stated saying that sevin is harmful to snakes. Sorry but you have shown no evidence either here you have merely stated that it is a carcinogen and therefore must be bad. You see just saying that it has harmed humans or that some vets dissapprove of its use does not prove anything. Until a snake is harmed by it ( which has never been shown to be the case ) then such statements are antecdotal as well. Also my opinion on the matter comes not frome heresay as you put it but from actual hands on experience over many years of keeping and breeding snakes and is not based on simply being told by someone that either this or that is wrong. What exactly are you using to come up with your opinion here? Did you happen to read a paper on it or perhaps have a vet tell you your info? The reason I ask is not to jab at you nor to bellitle your opinion but to try and understand where you are coming to this decision from. I have yet to hear from you about your amount of experience on the topic but instead have heard that you have friends who have researched it. I hate to inform you of this but research is also done by hands on experience and good old fashioned trial and error not to mention that even the ( scientists and vets ) can and have been wrong before. That is why I feel the reptile research and medicine is in the dark ages still.

And no I hate to burst your bubble but in order for the Oklahoma game to bother me I would have to care about college ball in the 1st place which I don't. :) Granted the fans here are nothing short of rabid but I am far from being one of them.

Lastly I am getting the vibe here that you seem to feel I am attacking your statement. This has not been the intention at all and I hope you can see that. All I have done is respond to you trying to tell me that the mite treatment I have used for a long time is somehow inferior to what your choice is.

Phil
 
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Phillip

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Almost forgot something you said that needs correcting.

The blanket statement that some 98% of snakes breed easily and even while on their death bed is far from accurate.

Sorry but that statement in itself leads me to believe you have no actual experience in the matter. While it is true that a great many species do breed readily very few will do so on their as you put it death bed and in fact most species have to be in good health to get eggs from.

Also if 98% of species bred easily there would be far more sanzinia, indigos, mollendorphs rats, red tailed rats, and many many species I could list bred in captivity than what actually are. If breeding were as easy as you implied with all species there would be a lot more folks actually making money off of reptiles than what do.

Phil
 

Lasiodora

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breeding and being able to cycle the snake to actually lay the eggs are two very different things (not to mention successfully hatching the eggs out). Just ask keepers of Morelia boeleni.
Mike
 

Phillip

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Another very good example of what I meant on the breeding thing.

Phil
 

Psycho

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Ok I gues my topic didnt go very far anyways thanx guys

~~~Psycho~~~
 

Lasiodora

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Psycho,
Make sure to check around the mouth and eye area. These are good hiding spots for mites and they sometimes survive in these areas. keep us updated.
Mike
 
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