grammostola mollicoma dark form?

Panic

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anyone has this? can u post some pics? i'm about to purchase this sp. do they grow faster than rosies? aggressive? comments please... just gotta make sure, tried looking for it on the net, can't seem to find one :D
 

Panic

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thanks moose :D


its not really that attractive for my eyes, compared to other grammies.. might as well get something else :wall:
 

Alice

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they look better in real life. however, they are not as attractive as g. actaeon, iheringi or pulchra ime.
 

Alice

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oh well... they are actually quite pretty after a molt - wine-red-brown and shiny (my breeder has some of them, that's how i know). unfortunately, their colours dull pretty quickly, and a few weeks after the molt, they are just another dark brown spider lacking attitude ;)
 

M.F.Bagaturov

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Hi all!
I wonder, what species have You talking about (except G. rosea and G. aureostriata)?
And who of You can explane the difference between G. mollicoma and so-called in hobby "G. iheringi"?
 

Alice

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g. mollicoma is a dark, brownish grammostola species that gets some wine-red-brown hairs after molting, especially on the ventral side. iheringi is a huge, black species with a fiery red abdomen. there's no confusing them...
 

M.F.Bagaturov

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Alice...
The real G. iheringi doesn't have even a 1 red hair, believe me.
The "G. iheringi" sold in pet-trade have nothing in common to the real G. iheringi, except they're sharing the same genus in theraphosinae...
The real G. iheringi, if describe in words, is hardly can be separated from the G. grossa.
 

ratz00

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This is my adult female G. Mollicoma. Its beauty isnt apparent but the longer you look the better it gets. The flash washed out most of the brown tinges. I would compare it to a liver colored labrador retriever...:D

 

Alice

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i was talking about the iheringi in the hobby. what is it, then? do you know any reference books/links? i'm not really into grammostola, but this would really interest me.
 

ratz00

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okay, from what I remember, G. Iheringi ang G. acteon both have thick brownish red hairs in their opisthosomas while young. The Acteon loses its reddish hairs to a degree that it looks like a pulchra while the iheringi retains the reddish hairs. The mollicoma should be a brown color, with a form that is darker, almost black.

This is my Juvie acteon



Link for Adult iheringi

www.birdspiders.com/archive/2AB1B1D6G3048G23A9G27447F8D86248265.html


This link for an adult acteon
www.birdspiders.com/archive/2AB1B1D6G3048G23A9G27447F8D86248265.html

I could be wrong but hope this helps....
 

M.F.Bagaturov

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Hello Ratz00.
First, looking Your picture I would also can tell that Your G. mollicoma is looking more like G. alticeps to me.

Second, I pay a deepest respect to Mr. West, but in this topic I believe much to the Uruguayan arachnologists who study the local fauna for a very long time (follow the links from the below link).

Alice. I do have a little reading for You, but unfortunately it is in Russian but using the on-line translator You can understand the talk, I hope.
So, here we go: http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/forum//index.php?showtopic=689

Hope this clear a bit for You the mess...
 

ratz00

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Hello Ratz00.
First, looking Your picture I would also can tell that Your G. mollicoma is looking more like G. alticeps to me.

Second, I pay a deepest respect to Mr. West, but in this topic I believe much to the Uruguayan arachnologists who study the local fauna for a very long time (follow the links from the below link).

Alice. I do have a little reading for You, but unfortunately it is in Russian but using the on-line translator You can understand the talk, I hope.
So, here we go: http://tarantulas.tropica.ru/forum//index.php?showtopic=689

Hope this clear a bit for You the mess...

Mr. Bagturov, yes I agree, it does look like a G. alticeps.
Compare the following pictures from these links...

This is a PDF file that has B&W pics of supposedly G. mollicoma
www.americanarachnology.org/JoA_free/JoA_v30_n3/arac-30-03-571.pdf

This is an alticeps from giantspiders.com
http://www.giantspiders.com/G_alticeps.html

This is a mollicoma from giantspiders.com
http://www.giantspiders.com/G_mollicoma_male.html

Mollicoma from E-spiderworld
http://www.e-spiderworld.com/gallery/pages/Grammostola mollicoma F.htm

Alticeps from e-spiderworld
http://www.e-spiderworld.com/gallery/pages/Grammostola alticeps 1a.htm
 
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