Grammostola Iheringi!

[Poec54]

Yeah I remember you saying that once. For this species I'd want a female if possible because they are so rarely seen for some reason. But why 3, I understand more numbers purchased increases probability of getting a gender, but how'd you arrive at 3 Poec, why not 5 or 6 etc?

Actually, I try to get 5 or 10 slings at a time of a species whenever I can. When I recommend that, some people squawk or roll their eyes, so I usually say 3. Remember, I'm up against people that are wanting to get only one. When you buy one sling of this, one of that, you're often raising 2/3's males. I don't know why people keep doing that. Lots of disappointment.

 

[viper69]

Actually, I try to get 5 or 10 slings at a time of a species whenever I can. When I recommend that, some people squawk or roll their eyes, so I usually say 3. Remember, I'm up against people that are wanting to get only one. When you buy one sling of this, one of that, you're often raising 2/3's males. I don't know why people keep doing that. Lots of disappointment.

OH ok..got it! Well, I think people do that because they HOPE the one they get is a female, or can only afford one. Also for some who want a variety of species, it comes down to space. If they wanted like 5-10 species, that could easily turn into 50 Ts. When they are small, it's not TOO big of a deal, but when they are subadults to adults, space becomes a consideration.

 

[Poec54]

OH ok..got it! Well, I think people do that because they HOPE the one they get is a female, or can only afford one. Also for some who want a variety of species, it comes down to space. If they wanted like 5-10 species, that could easily turn into 50 Ts. When they are small, it's not TOO big of a deal, but when they are subadults to adults, space becomes a consideration.

Yeah, that's what they do, but the theory's full of holes. Buying one sling and hoping for a female isn't really a plan. With many (most?) species, there's a good chance you're getting a male. You raise it up, he matures, you of course have nothing to pair him up with, and he dies a virgin. That's what happens to the vast majority of males in captivity. If you really want that species, then you get one more sling and start all over, again hoping it's a female. You can waste money, and years, that way.

When you get a few slings instead of one, you can raise them up to 2-3" and then sex them. The surplus can be sold or traded, for considerably more than what you paid for them. A lot of people want males, just look at the classifieds. By getting extra, getting some size on them, and selling what you don't need, you can make money! And if you keep doing that, you can pay for your new acquisitions, or crickets, or caging. It doesn't take up much space, after all, you're working with slings and juveniles. You just need some souffle cups and deli cups, stack 'em.

You said: 'If they wanted 5-10 species, that could easily turn into 50 T's.' Yes, short term it could. But... you get females for all 5-10 species, first time around! And the other 30-40 youngsters are worth something. You can make this hobby pay for itself, even build a large collection that way (especially when you start breeding). But you can't do it buying just one sling of a species.

 

[PEIMike]

"But you can't do it buying just one sling of a species"

im learning this the hard way.

I do have this species, but at $90 a sling, I bought only one......its male.
its still a fun spider though.

 

[viper69]

"But you can't do it buying just one sling of a species"

im learning this the hard way.

I do have this species, but at $90 a sling, I bought only one......its male.
its still a fun spider though.

What size is it? What's yours disposition? Post some pics

 

[PEIMike]

hes over 4 inches now, got him at 1 1/2 inches a year ago September. never refused a cricket, but hes stuck up, and will not eat a meal, or super worm. must like drum sticks.
it doesn't matter how much he eats, his abdomen stays the same size, I don't know why this is, but it is.
he is always doing something, always on the go. ive only seen one threat display, and it was towards a cricket when he was in premolt.........ive never seen him flick hairs, and my 4 year old daughter is always bouncing, which in turn, moves the floor boards in our old house, when she bounces, he bounces.
ill get a few pics up in a little while, ive got to undig all the water dishes today anyways, (like I said, always on the go, and rearranging), if he wasn't male, id think hes female.

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this might post a picture, it might not, either way, im no photographer.
and also forgot to say that he hunts, he doesn't wait for the cricket.

 

[viper69]

hes over 4 inches now, got him at 1 1/2 inches a year ago September. never refused a cricket, but hes stuck up, and will not eat a meal, or super worm. must like drum sticks.
it doesn't matter how much he eats, his abdomen stays the same size, I don't know why this is, but it is.
he is always doing something, always on the go. ive only seen one threat display, and it was towards a cricket when he was in premolt.........ive never seen him flick hairs, and my 4 year old daughter is always bouncing, which in turn, moves the floor boards in our old house, when she bounces, he bounces.
ill get a few pics up in a little while, ive got to undig all the water dishes today anyways, (like I said, always on the go, and rearranging), if he wasn't male, id think hes female.

---------- Post added 12-14-2013 at 11:20 AM ----------

this might post a picture, it might not, either way, im no photographer.
and also forgot to say that he hunts, he doesn't wait for the cricket.

Thanks for the details! This is pretty helpful, corresponds w/the first entry. He's pretty. The red certainly is bright.

 

[RussoTuristo]

I absolutely love this species, but as others have mentioned, it's a very "atypical" Grammostola.

First off, its body proportions are unlike any other in the genus. It's very very leggy, has none of the "bulkiness" of the likes of G. pulchra etc., and its abdomen always seems small, although it does get bigger if well-fed.

It also loves to web. Not nearly as much as GBB, but you can expect it to cover most of the substrate with a layer of webbing.

Another atypical thing is that slings have their adult coloration pretty much straight away, unlike other Grammostolas that look remarkably similar to each other in the first few instars.

As for activity, I wouldn't say it's too active. Mine is more or less happy to sit in its hideout (a small plastic cup). It webbed all over the outer rim, which looks very nice, and then webbed up the whole area in front of it, but I barely ever catch it in the process. When it's hungry, however, it can sense prey at some distance due to the web mat, gives a great show of catching it, and never refuses food unless in heavy premolt.

So basically, G. iheringi is somewhat similar to GBB in quite a few aspects (legginess, webbing, colorful slings), it's a lot like a "toned-down" GBB. Not what you'd usually expect from a Grammostola.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and they grow rather quickly, probably the quickest growth rate among Grammostolas I know (that is, G. pulchripes, G. pulchra and G. rosea).

 

[Smokehound714]

whoa, at first glance i thought i was looking at an avic. o_o

 

[viper69]

I absolutely love this species, but as others have mentioned, it's a very "atypical" Grammostola.

First off, its body proportions are unlike any other in the genus. It's very very leggy, has none of the "bulkiness" of the likes of G. pulchra etc., and its abdomen always seems small, although it does get bigger if well-fed.

It also loves to web. Not nearly as much as GBB, but you can expect it to cover most of the substrate with a layer of webbing.

Another atypical thing is that slings have their adult coloration pretty much straight away, unlike other Grammostolas that look remarkably similar to each other in the first few instars.

As for activity, I wouldn't say it's too active. Mine is more or less happy to sit in its hideout (a small plastic cup). It webbed all over the outer rim, which looks very nice, and then webbed up the whole area in front of it, but I barely ever catch it in the process. When it's hungry, however, it can sense prey at some distance due to the web mat, gives a great show of catching it, and never refuses food unless in heavy premolt.

So basically, G. iheringi is somewhat similar to GBB in quite a few aspects (legginess, webbing, colorful slings), it's a lot like a "toned-down" GBB. Not what you'd usually expect from a Grammostola.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and they grow rather quickly, probably the quickest growth rate among Grammostolas I know (that is, G. pulchripes, G. pulchra and G. rosea).

I've noticed they are very leggy as well. Does this apply to the females as well?

My friend saw some that are about 1" and they already have read coming through clearly.

When you mean lay down silk on the sub. All my terrestrials do that. Did you mean they lay down a VISIBLE layer?

Their leg setae also seem to be pretty spikey as opposed to laying down along the leg. Reminds me of my Lvs or rufilata in that respect.

 

[Kat Graves]

There was a batch of these sent out recently in the US because I have seen them at about the same size on a couple different sites. These have been on my wish list from the start, but the problem is that right now they are going for around $78-$95 for 1". Still, if I had that kind of money I would scoop them up now while I still could. Just FYI.

 

[awiec]

I am going to have to budget cut so I can get one, I found one a decent sized sling for not too bad of a price, and if they grow faster than my G.pluchripes than I'll be happy.

 

[RussoTuristo]

I've noticed they are very leggy as well. Does this apply to the females as well?

My friend saw some that are about 1" and they already have read coming through clearly.

When you mean lay down silk on the sub. All my terrestrials do that. Did you mean they lay down a VISIBLE layer?

Their leg setae also seem to be pretty spikey as opposed to laying down along the leg. Reminds me of my Lvs or rufilata in that respect.

I'm not going to lie, I haven't actually seen an adult female with my own eyes, mine's an unsexed juvie, but pictures on the internet suggest they're leggy too. All the juvies I've seen look like MMs.

As for the webbing, I'm not exactly sure whether the web is more visible or they just do several layers, but they eventually cover all of the substrate in clearly visible web, which I've never seen any other Grammostola do.

Here's my juvie recovering from the molt:

 

[johnny quango]

How many Euros were they going for do you estimate?

Viper they are currently on sale as slings at the moment in the UK for around £25-30 its the 1st time ive seen them in quite a while though

 

[Lrntolive]

Yeah, that's what they do, but the theory's full of holes. Buying one sling and hoping for a female isn't really a plan. With many (most?) species, there's a good chance you're getting a male. You raise it up, he matures, you of course have nothing to pair him up with, and he dies a virgin. That's what happens to the vast majority of males in captivity. If you really want that species, then you get one more sling and start all over, again hoping it's a female. You can waste money, and years, that way.

When you get a few slings instead of one, you can raise them up to 2-3" and then sex them. The surplus can be sold or traded, for considerably more than what you paid for them. A lot of people want males, just look at the classifieds. By getting extra, getting some size on them, and selling what you don't need, you can make money! And if you keep doing that, you can pay for your new acquisitions, or crickets, or caging. It doesn't take up much space, after all, you're working with slings and juveniles. You just need some souffle cups and deli cups, stack 'em.

You said: 'If they wanted 5-10 species, that could easily turn into 50 T's.' Yes, short term it could. But... you get females for all 5-10 species, first time around! And the other 30-40 youngsters are worth something. You can make this hobby pay for itself, even build a large collection that way (especially when you start breeding). But you can't do it buying just one sling of a species.

Poec,

I don't agree that just because someone purchases just one T of a species and it turns out a male that it is a waste of time and money. You're making the assumption that everyone who purchases a T is looking for a female or plans to breed in the future.

In my case, I don't care if they are male or female. I just want beautiful creatures to look at as works of art. I don't want to spend the time feeding 5-10 of the same T. If I purchased T's like you recommend, I'd have 40 on the low side, with a max of 80. I really have better things to do with my time.

And, I personally don't want to make money with them, as my time is worth more, and I have a full time job.

I believe different people have different reasons for wanting T's and your mold or mine do not always fit others.

If you want just one, buy just one. If you want more, then get more.

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[viper69]

I'm not going to lie, I haven't actually seen an adult female with my own eyes, mine's an unsexed juvie, but pictures on the internet suggest they're leggy too. All the juvies I've seen look like MMs.

As for the webbing, I'm not exactly sure whether the web is more visible or they just do several layers, but they eventually cover all of the substrate in clearly visible web, which I've never seen any other Grammostola do.

Here's my juvie recovering from the molt:

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They are pretty. Compared to my Rose Hair, this species lays down a lot more silk. Mine puts down the usual, barely noticeable till you touch it. I have only seen them in pictures myself, but everyone is leggy. I'd like to see a confirmed, older female

 

[Kat Graves]

Here is a confirmed 5" female.

 

[viper69]

Thanks! not too different from the few males I've seen

 

[Smokehound714]

Im starting to think grammostola should be in the aviculariinae now lol!

 

[Keith B]

They are pretty. Compared to my Rose Hair, this species lays down a lot more silk. Mine puts down the usual, barely noticeable till you touch it. I have only seen them in pictures myself, but everyone is leggy. I'd like to see a confirmed, older female

Get a mature adult female Rose Hair then. Bused you again buddy, sorry! Webs everywhere she goes. Used to web my hands together back in my handling days lol.