Gooty saphire?

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So my local pet store has a gooty saphire sling, I'm extremely interested in them but havnt pulled the trigger on the purchase. I feel like they want too much but not really sure what a fair price is. Can anyone tell me a bit about the species, is it a good Idea to grab em up.
 

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Gooty Sapphire Ornamental - but you should get used to the taxonomic description, as common names are often misleading (not in this case, everyone knows that species...but still.)

Poecilotheria metallica - usually very skittish, very photosensitive, like all Poecies no urticating hairs, strong venom and still one of the evergreens in the hobby, beautiful species. Very pricey no matter where you get them from - and I strongly suggest you look for one in the classifieds on here, since somehow I doubt a petstore has one of those for sale.

Best suggestion - go read up on them on here. There's tons of info about them.

Edit: Also - this species is NOT a starter species. Aside the toxicity - due to the pricetag acquiring even a sling.
 

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So my local pet store has a gooty saphire sling, I'm extremely interested in them but havnt pulled the trigger on the purchase. I feel like they want too much but not really sure what a fair price is. Can anyone tell me a bit about the species, is it a good Idea to grab em up.
If you’re new to keeping, I’d highly suggest holding off until you gain some experience with some other T’s and their speed. They have medical significant venom that will mess you up if you get bit.
 

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Gooty Sapphire Ornamental - but you should get used to the taxonomic description, as common names are often misleading (not in this case, everyone knows that species...but still.)

Poecilotheria metallica - usually very skittish, very photosensitive, like all Poecies no urticating hairs, strong venom and still one of the evergreens in the hobby, beautiful species. Very pricey no matter where you get them from - and I strongly suggest you look for one in the classifieds on here, since somehow I doubt a petstore has one of those for sale.

Best suggestion - go read up on them on here. There's tons of info about them.

Edit: Also - this species is NOT a starter species. Aside the toxicity - due to the pricetag acquiring even a sling.
Thankyou, that's why I asked. They do in fact have one. A sling, 150. P. metalica just like you said. I thought it odd too and she said it wouldnt be there long if I didnt get it. But i figured that it would be a more experience required T. Thanks for the helpful info. I just really admire the look of them. I have others but I would still concider my self a beginner. Probably not ready for a p. Metalica. Lol

If you’re new to keeping, I’d highly suggest holding off until you gain some experience with some other T’s and their speed. They have medical significant venom that will mess you up if you get bit.
Noted. Special venom, bad bite. got it.


Still though... at that price it's really hard to pass up..
 
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Thankyou, that's why I asked. They do in fact have one. A sling, 150. P. metalica just like you said. I thought it odd too and she said it wouldnt be there long if I didnt get it. But i figured that it would be a more experience required T. Thanks for the helpful info. I just really admire the look of them. I have others but I would still concider my self a beginner. Probably not ready for a p. Metalica. Lol
If you’re a responsible keeper and do your research on husbandry etc.. (which I’ll assume you do based on questions) and you’re looking to spice things up a bit and move up the ladder. I’d suggest P.cambridgei as that stepping stone into super quick and more defensive arboreal T’s. However I would suggest getting comfortable with some quicker species of terrestrial T’s before taking that step. Mostly as a way to get comfortable with the rehouses or reaction to a T bolting up your arm haha.
 

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I don't know. While I never kept P. metallica (because of the pricetag over here), I did keep other Poecies and personally like the what was known as (haven't looked if still the case) sp. "lowland" way more. And in terms of "blue" spiders, metallica isn't the only option you have, Sir.

There's quite a few, some newer, some evergreens like the GBB (Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens) comes to mind, Avicularia purpurea, the (somewhat) controversial Euathlus sp. "blue" (if you can even find one in the US), Homoeomma sp. "blue" if I look just at my collection. All fine for even beginners imho. I'm sure others would toss you more suggestions if the coloration is what you're looking for most...
 

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If you’re a responsible keeper and do your research on husbandry etc.. (which I’ll assume you do based on questions) and you’re looking to spice things up a bit and move up the ladder. I’d suggest P.cambridgei as that stepping stone into super quick and more defensive arboreal T’s. However I would suggest getting comfortable with some quicker species of terrestrial T’s before taking that step. Mostly as a way to get comfortable with the rehouses or reaction to a T bolting up your arm haha.
I will certainly look into one of those. Thankyou. I can see why bolting up my arm could be an issue lol. Cant say I've had one run up my arm yet. That little B. Smithi tried to run on me when I rehoused him today but it all worked out.

I don't know. While I never kept P. metallica (because of the pricetag over here), I did keep other Poecies and personally like the what was known as (haven't looked if still the case) sp. "lowland" way more. And in terms of "blue" spiders, metallica isn't the only option you have, Sir.

There's quite a few, some newer, some evergreens like the GBB (Chromatopelma cyaneopubescens) comes to mind, Avicularia purpurea, the (somewhat) controversial Euathlus sp. "blue" (if you can even find one in the US), Homoeomma sp. "blue" if I look just at my collection. All fine for even beginners imho. I'm sure others would toss you more suggestions if the coloration is what you're looking for most...
I wouldnt say I'm interested in the coloration the most but I am looking for something a little more eye catching. The suggestions are great though thankyou.
 

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I will certainly look into one of those. Thankyou. I can see why bolting up my arm could be an issue lol. Cant say I've had one run up my arm yet. That little B. Smithi tried to run on me when I rehoused him today but it all worked out.
You’d be surprised how fast some species of tarantulas are. Even my p.cambridgei’s literally teleport haha. They have a pretty bad bite too. With that said, as far as I’m concerned... in the future you can get a p.Metallica (gooty sapphire) at a reptile expo for cheaper. Just a heads up.
 

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You’d be surprised how fast some species of tarantulas are. Even my p.cambridgei’s literally teleport haha. They have a pretty bad bite too. With that said, as far as I’m concerned... in the future you can get a p.Metallica (gooty sapphire) at a reptile expo for cheaper. Just a heads up.
That's good to know. All great info. Thanks.

That's good to know. All great info. Thanks.
You’d be surprised how fast some species of tarantulas are. Even my p.cambridgei’s literally teleport haha. They have a pretty bad bite too. With that said, as far as I’m concerned... in the future you can get a p.Metallica (gooty sapphire) at a reptile expo for cheaper. Just a heads up.
I'll have to look into an expo. Havnt been to one.
 

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Welcome! I can tell you from experience (started keeping again in 2020 after a very short failed attempt in 2016) that it’s my least favorite. There’s little joy in having to interact with it for feeding and rehousing in relations to the other Ts I own. Not one you want to have an “oops” moment with. They are fast and they move randomly, hard to predict.

The blue color is muted unless you have light directly on it; for the most part they are a gray’ish blah tone; mine is still small...about 2”. What you see in pictures is not exactly how it translate in person.

If you are looking for something with some similar attributes check out Psalmopoeus; still has a nasty bite but the lesser of two evils. Not exactly a beginner species, but doable.

But if this is you’re first T, I would go for something docile without a medically significant bite.
 

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I will certainly look into one of those. Thankyou. I can see why bolting up my arm could be an issue lol. Cant say I've had one run up my arm yet. That little B. Smithi tried to run on me when I rehoused him today but it all worked out.


I wouldnt say I'm interested in the coloration the most but I am looking for something a little more eye catching. The suggestions are great though thankyou.
If you've got a few species under your belt already and can deal with faster arboreal Ts, a P. irminia could be an option (I see Psalmopoeus also mentioned above too). Mine is a teleporter, and isn't afraid to bite, but as with any species if the correct husbandry and precautions are taken, you'll be fine.

Not a beginner species by any means, but I'd definitely recommend it over Poecilotheria for the less experienced keepers.
 

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Still though... at that price it's really hard to pass up..
While a good price can be tempting, I would recommend never to get a tarantula (or any other animal) solely because the price seems too good to pass up.

Good deals, while temporary, often recur. If anything, by the time you are ready to pull the trigger on the metallica, prices may have decreased due to captive breeding efforts. (They used to be ridiculously expensive several years ago.)
 

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As a few people have mentioned Psalmopoeus I'll chime in to add that, in my experience at least, Psalmopoeus pulcher are closest to Poecilotheria metallica in terms of behaviour/temperament.
 

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So my local pet store has a gooty saphire sling, I'm extremely interested in them but havnt pulled the trigger on the purchase. I feel like they want too much but not really sure what a fair price is. Can anyone tell me a bit about the species, is it a good Idea to grab em up.
They are common- no rush to buy it.

Also, venom from this genus has been documented in medical literature to put grown men in hospitals.

There are better Pokis to get for your first one, like regalis. Mets are the smallest and most nervous.

Also, if you don’t have OWs yet, this is not a way to start. Get Ceratogyrus- if you can’t handle a terrestrial OW than you can’t deal with an arboreal.

BTW 150$ is NOT a good price, that’s a rip off.

You can find them regularly for 85-100!
 

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They are common- no rush to buy it.

Also, venom from this genus has been documented in medical literature to put grown men in hospitals.

There are better Pokis to get for your first one, like regalis. Mets are the smallest and most nervous.

Also, if you don’t have OWs yet, this is not a way to start. Get Ceratogyrus- if you can’t handle a terrestrial OW than you can’t deal with an arboreal.

BTW 150$ is NOT a good price, that’s a rip off.

You can find them regularly for 85-100!
Echoing the price observation, $150 isnt what I would consider a good price. When I purchased mine through a vendor here on the boards, I paid $75 ea in 2019 for 3/4" slings plus shipping.
 

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take the speed your B smithi bolted, and multiply by about 50, and they tend to run up, which means you. Now add a 'big hurt' bite. Start with an Avic or a Versicolor for your first arboreal.
 

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They are common- no rush to buy it.

Also, venom from this genus has been documented in medical literature to put grown men in hospitals.

There are better Pokis to get for your first one, like regalis. Mets are the smallest and most nervous.

Also, if you don’t have OWs yet, this is not a way to start. Get Ceratogyrus- if you can’t handle a terrestrial OW than you can’t deal with an arboreal.

BTW 150$ is NOT a good price, that’s a rip off.

You can find them regularly for 85-100!
Yea I saw 95 <edit>. But thankyou for the info. I was originally just looking for info on the p metalica because they had one and i didnt know much about them other than it was arboreal and looked cool. Store couldn't even tell me anything about the Ts which is alot of the reason I do research before purchasing any new addition. I do have other more docile species. I'm just interested in stepping up the ladder a bit.

take the speed your B smithi bolted, and multiply by about 50, and they tend to run up, which means you. Now add a 'big hurt' bite. Start with an Avic or a Versicolor for your first arboreal.
I have an avic already but thanks

Echoing the price observation, $150 isnt what I would consider a good price. When I purchased mine through a vendor here on the boards, I paid $75 ea in 2019 for 3/4" slings plus shipping.
Good to know, thanks
 

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I have an avic already but thanks
Okay. I think the P metallica is over priced/over hyped in general and yours seems higher than average. I personally think the lowly Regalis is a prettier T and makes a better intro into the genus. If you think you are ready for that ladder step the regalis will get you in for way less coin. As others have said, wait for a show for better deals
 

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Still though... at that price it's really hard to pass up..
$150 isn't a good deal on this species. That's on the high end of reasonable pricing (or, pricing that leads to sales). Granted you wouldn't have shipping costs, so it probably breaks even. I would do as suggested and get a Psalmo before a pokie. Checks all the same boxes but has much more forgiving venom.

When you can rehouse a Psalmo without sweating a puddle or losing the thing, it's Pokie time.
 

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than it was arboreal and looked cool
Looked cool, haha indeed they do- never a reason to just buy something.

Yeah, a lot of venomous animals look cool, like Ts, and venomous snakes too.

Nothing like owning a T that can affect your heart beating- documented.

I'm just interested in stepping up the ladder a bit.
Start with a Psalmo or a Tapi. If you can't handle those, you cannot deal with a Poki.
 
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