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corns

No prob:) . I just didnt want intrepidus to get a corn and then keep it in a 10 gal. its whole life:eek:
 

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intrepidus6 said:
Also, can two corn snakes live together pretty well?
There is a huge risk of the following: cannibalism, disease transfer, refusal to feed, cannibalism, losing both should there ever be a single escape, stress, cannibalism, inability to identify which snake needs help when there's a regurge, and cannibalism.

Also, cannibalism.
 

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Ok thanks lol I was about to get two, but I think I'll stick to just one lol

And, just one more question, should I give the snake live, or pre-killed food?
 
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how much room for an enclosure do you have? if you only have room for a 10 gallon that is going to limit what size and type of reptile you would have room for. if you have room for a 60 gallon then you would have considerably more choices. I kept my blue tongue skink in a 60 gallon, I also kept a bearded dragon in a 60 gallon.
another thing to consider is that a snake will not need UV and basking lights, calcium supplements, and vitamin supplements like many lizards will. many snakes will be a lot easier to keep than most lizards. I use cheap shop fluorescent light fixtures with cheap shop light bulbs over my snake enclosures. I do use a 100 watt basking light along with the fluorescent light in my ball python enclosure but that is because the enclosure is very large 4' tall by 2' square. all enclosures have a under the tank heater and are monitored with room and enclosure temp gauges. I also use a handheld laser spot temp thermometer to check basking area temps.
I feed mostly small rat pups to my smaller snakes, there is about zero chance that they could harm the snakes even if they are not eaten right away. I do feed live medium rats to my ball python as it will not eat frozen/thawed or prekilled (it is so picky it will only eat multi-colored rats, no white rats, no white/tan). I do stay in the room and watch for any problems and if the rat is not eaten right away it is removed and I will try again in a week's time.
 
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intrepidus6 said:
And, just one more question, should I give the snake live, or pre-killed food?
Pre-killed. You can buy frozen from places like Big Cheese and pay about a third what you will in pet stores for their pre-killed. Being frozen as long as the online suppliers do will kill off any diseases or parasites, though they keep them SO much cleaner than pet stores that there probably aren't either to begin with.

Also, there is always a risk of a live animal fighting back. It can cost you your pet's life. Plus you will inevitably have the odd feeding day where the snake just isn't hungry, and then you'd be stuck housing/caring for a live mouse (and a young corn will be eating pinkies, ie newborns. You will not be able to keep it alive even until another feeding day, and it will probably die slowly. THAT is cruelty). At least if a thawed one gets refused you can just chuck it in the dumpster and you're out less than fifty cents if it's an adult mouse. {D
 

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I dunno about the mouse fighting back thing, I used to know this guy who had two snakes (I think they were Ball Pythons, not 100% sure though) and they were fed live mice there whole lives, never any problems.
I have two pet rats, and one mouse, so if a feeder mouse went un-eaten, I would have food for it, but the pinkie tihng, I certainly don't want the little guy to die like that....
 

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intrepidus6 said:
I dunno about the mouse fighting back thing, I used to know this guy who had two snakes (I think they were Ball Pythons, not 100% sure though) and they were fed live mice there whole lives, never any problems.
Please don't use anecdotal evidence. For every person that's had no problems, there's another that got their pet permanently scarred, blinded, or killed this way. The question you need to ask yourself is whether or not that risk is acceptable to you. It DOES happen. There are pictures. They are not pretty.

You are not going to be able to "intervene" by the way. As someone mentioned in the other snake thread, snakes are lightning-fast and so is their prey. No human on earth could possibly react in the time between the start of a problem and the snake getting hurt.
 

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Waht about pinks though? I doubt they could fight back...

Edit- Just an Idea I had: I could fed live food with forceps, to make sure the food dosen't fight back. The reason I want to use live food is to mimic the way the snake would eat in the wild, it is absulotaly NOT because I take pleasure in seeing a mouse die.
 
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I could fed live food with forceps, to make sure the food dosen't fight back. The reason I want to use live food is to mimic the way the snake would eat in the wild
If you're going to use forceps, you may as well use them with pre-killed. I can't imagine how on earth you'll hold a panicked, wriggling live rodent with those. And no, it won't prevent it from twisting around and letting your pet have a round of teeth in the eye.

Mimicking the wild is kind of pointless when you're keeping an animal in a tank.
 
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