First Tarantulas, some questions

[chish]

Hi, first time here. I've done lots of research on beginner species and husbandry for them. An opportunity came up where someone was moving and needed to get rid of 2 tarantulas. One happened to be brazilian white knee which interested me. He ended up offering both for very cheap so I went ahead with it. Here's the catch though, the 2nd one is claimed to be a cobalt blue. I can't tell though, and it's enclosure it came in is not set up correctly if it is. It only has a couple inches of substrate. I know a cobalt blue isn't a beginner species. But like I said I'm iffy if it even is one. And if it is I need to re house it. I'll attach a picture. Thanks. (Also added a Pic of the brazilian white knee)

 

[scorpsallday3]

If the second picture is of the supposed cobalt then I have good news.. It’s not a cobalt blue. First thing is to ID that second T. Based off the blurry pic I would give a guess that it might be a Tlitocatl vagans also known as the Mexican Red Rump. I’m not the most well versed in NW terrestrials however i am certain you’re not dealing with an old world species like the cobalt blue.

 

[chish]

Cool thanks! Very good to know and relieving haha

 

[TheraMygale]

Well, depending if that is a cobalt blue or not, you will have your work cut although, it does not look like a cobalt blue at all…

does the abdomen have markings?

 

[chish]

I will try to get a better picture to post now that I'm not as scared. LOL

 

[TheraMygale]

I will try to get a better picture to post now that I'm not as scared. LOL

Fear can be a problem.

you want to respect your tarantulas, be confident, but always be aware of unpredictability.

i get the first moment jitters and all. The thing is, fear is what leads to bigger mistakes. You want to master that calm and serenity around tarantulas. Fluid soft mouvements. Like walking around a wild stud horse.

as you gain experience around working with your tarantulas, if that strong fear emotion does not disolve, then that means it will not work out.

if the opposite happens, where you are cool headed and thinking clear, then you are working it out.

We have a privilege, being able to have these in our care. Tarantulas require respect and passion.

they will need more work then it seems. Fear will make getting that work done a walk in Fear the Walking dead.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Hi, first time here. I've done lots of research on beginner species and husbandry for them. An opportunity came up where someone was moving and needed to get rid of 2 tarantulas. One happened to be brazilian white knee which interested me. He ended up offering both for very cheap so I went ahead with it. Here's the catch though, the 2nd one is claimed to be a cobalt blue. I can't tell though, and it's enclosure it came in is not set up correctly if it is. It only has a couple inches of substrate. I know a cobalt blue isn't a beginner species. But like I said I'm iffy if it even is one. And if it is I need to re house it. I'll attach a picture. Thanks. (Also added a Pic of the brazilian white knee)

Good news that’s not a cobalt blue , post pictures here I’ll try an identity it I know what it most likely is .

Tarantula Identification

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[chish]

Well, depending if that is a cobalt blue or not, you will have your work cut although, it does not look like a cobalt blue at all…

does the abdomen have markings?

Tried feeding it to get it to come out more but just pulled it back in quick. Ate though. Got this picture. Sorry I know it's not abdomen. Still trying lol

Fear can be a problem.

you want to respect your tarantulas, be confident, but always be aware of unpredictability.

i get the first moment jitters and all. The thing is, fear is what leads to bigger mistakes. You want to master that calm and serenity around tarantulas. Fluid soft mouvements. Like walking around a wild stud horse.

as you gain experience around working with your tarantulas, if that strong fear emotion does not disolve, then that means it will not work out.

if the opposite happens, where you are cool headed and thinking clear, then you are working it out.

We have a privilege, being able to have these in our care. Tarantulas require respect and passion.

they will need more work then it seems. Fear will make getting that work done a walk in Fear the Walking dead.

Forsure, thanks. I agree. I really want to give them a good home. Which is the main reason I'm trying to identify it, not because of fear but I really feel the enclosure it was sold in isn't suitable.

I'd also like to say, sorry if I'm coming off ignorant and irresponsible. That's not my intention. I have researched tons, but it's hard to pick a species and a opportunity came where I could buy from someone in my city. But ended up being a species I haven't looked into too much

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

I'd also like to say, sorry if I'm coming off ignorant and irresponsible. That's not my intention. I have researched tons, but it's hard to pick a species and a opportunity came where I could buy from someone in my city. But ended up being a species I haven't looked into too much

I’d rather have what you got then a cobalt blue.
Here’s some helpful info if you hadn’t already found it.

Tarantula Information for Beginners (and More)

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[TheraMygale]

I'd also like to say, sorry if I'm coming off ignorant and irresponsible. That's not my intention. I have researched tons, but it's hard to pick a species and a opportunity came where I could buy from someone in my city. But ended up being a species I haven't looked into too much

You are not.

no need to appologize. We will help you the best we can, with what information you provide.

i brought up the fear thing as advice. I don’t think anything less of you. I didnt think you were a scaredy cat either.

it was the only thing i thought to give as advice at the moment, considering you said you did your research.

you got tarantulas. You already researched husbandry. Even if different species, much will be similar.

once you identify mystery Tarantula, you will be set to go. Then you will have more specific questions.

there is a huge fan club for A geniculata here: if you have a chromatus though, not the same thing. At first I thought A genic, but didnt look carefully. It might indeed be chromatus as @Cmac2111 said. Definitely not the same urticating setae either… Get used to using the latin names for better answers from the community.

 

[chish]

You are not.

no need to appologize. We will help you the best we can, with what information you provide.

i brought up the fear thing as advice. I don’t think anything less of you. I didnt think you were a scaredy cat either.

it was the only thing i thought to give as advice at the moment, considering you said you did your research.

you got tarantulas. You already researched husbandry. Even if different species, much will be similar.

once you identify mystery Tarantula, you will be set to go. Then you will have more specific questions.

there is a huge fan club for A geniculata here: you will find all you need. Get used to using the latin names for better answers from the community.

Awesome, thanks for the helpful responses both ate for the first time for me. I asked last time they ate and he said they're fine to eat today. Was really cool to see for the first time in person

 

[Cmac2111]

For future reference, request species ID here: Tarantula Identification | Arachnoboards

It's always best to get the scientific names of any tarantulas you want to buy, that's the way to be most sure of what your getting (though the seller clearly had no idea anyway or was intentionally misleading if he was selling that 2nd T as a 'cobalt blue'...). For example, your 'Brazilian white knee' (a common name often used for the species acanthoscurria geniculata) is a vitalus chromatus; both species are from Brazil & have white markings on their legs (so the name could apply to both), but are entirely different species. Thus, relying on common names can land us with a species we may not have wanted... making use of scientific names lets us be more sure.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

For future reference, request species ID here: Tarantula Identification | Arachnoboards

It's always best to get the scientific names of any tarantulas you want to buy, that's the way to be most sure of what your getting (though the seller clearly had no idea anyway or was intentionally misleading if he was selling that 2nd T as a 'cobalt blue'...). For example, your 'Brazilian white knee' (a common name often used for the species acanthoscurria geniculata) is a vitalus chromatus; both species are from Brazil & have white markings on their legs (so the name could apply to both), but are entirely different species. Thus, relying on common names lands us with a species we may not have wanted... making use of scientific names lets us be more sure.

Yeah, I asked my pet shop for scientific names. They didn’t have any for anything that was on display in the store. I wouldn’t buy any spider without a picture and a scientific name..

 

[chish]

For future reference, request species ID here: Tarantula Identification | Arachnoboards

It's always best to get the scientific names of any tarantulas you want to buy, that's the way to be most sure of what your getting (though the seller clearly had no idea anyway or was intentionally misleading if he was selling that 2nd T as a 'cobalt blue'...). For example, your 'Brazilian white knee' (a common name often used for the species acanthoscurria geniculata) is a vitalus chromatus; both species are from Brazil & have white markings on their legs (so the name could apply to both), but are entirely different species. Thus, relying on common names can land us with a species we may not have wanted... making use of scientific names lets us be more sure.

Very good to know thanks. I will practice and learn my scientific terms. I'm starting to remember some, I recognize them when I hear them. Just hard to remember. Will be easy to learn what I have though and go from there

 

[goofyGoober99]

Very good to know thanks. I will practice and learn my scientific terms. I'm starting to remember some, I recognize them when I hear them. Just hard to remember. Will be easy to learn what I have though and go from there

Getting used to the scientific names takes awhile but it gets easier to learn new ones the longer you go. Now figuring out how to pronounce them... that's the real challenge
Congrats on your new tarantulas! Glad they're going to have a better home now.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Getting used to the scientific names takes awhile but it gets easier to learn new ones the longer you go. Now figuring out how to pronounce them... that's the real challenge
Congrats on your new tarantulas! Glad they're going to have a better home now.

yeah I don’t think I could pronounce them well either.. I pretty much just say them like they’re in English.
The hard part is spelling them I can’t seem to memorize some names . They are too hard, I have to write those down or look them up.
I told the guy to pet store what do you want me to memorize all the scientific and common names that’s impossible?
I can’t even identify what species they got except the common ones.

 

[TheraMygale]

yeah I don’t think I could pronounce them well either.. I pretty much just say them like they’re in English.
The hard part is spelling them I can’t seem to memorize some names . They are too hard, I have to write those down or look them up.
I told the guy to pet store what do you want me to memorize all the scientific and common names that’s impossible?
I can’t even identify what species they got except the common ones.

Very good to know thanks. I will practice and learn my scientific terms. I'm starting to remember some, I recognize them when I hear them. Just hard to remember. Will be easy to learn what I have though and go from there

Online, nobody hears you say their name. So as long as you have it copy pasted somewhere…

many folks put a sticker tag on the enclosure with the name on it. I assure you, it will become a fart in the wind at some point.

 

[chish]

Online, nobody hears you say their name. So as long as you have it copy pasted somewhere…

many folks put a sticker tag on the enclosure with the name on it. I assure you, it will become a fart in the wind at some point.

So off of another picture I posted in the species Identification forum, thinking the "cobalt blue" is a Tliltocatl vagans which I think someone mentioned earlier on this post. If it is, I think it will be a good species.

 

[Ultum4Spiderz]

Online, nobody hears you say their name. So as long as you have it copy pasted somewhere…

many folks put a sticker tag on the enclosure with the name on it. I assure you, it will become a fart in the wind at some point.

I didn’t start using names on my cages again until I mixed up a bunch of Lasiodora. Then I brought them back .. rather quickly. I quit doing it when my collection fell to 50. Today it’s significantly smaller .🦤 silly me , I should’ve bought one of those things that prints out names.

 

[Arachnophobphile]

Hi, first time here. I've done lots of research on beginner species and husbandry for them. An opportunity came up where someone was moving and needed to get rid of 2 tarantulas. One happened to be brazilian white knee which interested me. He ended up offering both for very cheap so I went ahead with it. Here's the catch though, the 2nd one is claimed to be a cobalt blue. I can't tell though, and it's enclosure it came in is not set up correctly if it is. It only has a couple inches of substrate. I know a cobalt blue isn't a beginner species. But like I said I'm iffy if it even is one. And if it is I need to re house it. I'll attach a picture. Thanks. (Also added a Pic of the brazilian white knee)

Second photo looks very much like a Tliltocatl vagans. It's definitely a red rump not a C. lividus count your luck.

If it was a C. lividus I would urge you to sell it asap. Those T's are not for the inexperienced.

The other one Acanthoscurria geniculata are awesome. I have a mature male over 8 inches and he's been a joy to raise from a sling.