feeding day in the reptile room.

[Meaningless End]

i was feeding today and decided to pull the camera out and take a little video. it gives a little bit of a tour threw my cage set ups and shows all the reptiles in my colletion..

there is however both live and P/K feeding in this video so if live feeding bothers you then heres my disclaimer.... dont watch it.
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[ScorpionFanatic]

not that you should feed in the tank because It could make any snake more agressive. I never took the time to remove my rattlesnakes from there tank to feed but Is it so agressive that you have to? It looks like a snake I would remove to feed.

 

[Meaningless End]

not that you should feed in the tank because It could make any snake more agressive. I never took the time to remove my rattlesnakes from there tank to feed but Is it so agressive that you have to? It looks like a snake I would remove to feed.

the thing is i do remove her to feed.. most of the time shes the one in the bucket.. dosent matter.. once the smell of a rat is in the room its on no matter where shes at.. with the amount of animals i have feeding in seprate containers is just a waist of time...

 

[Archnophil]

Very Nice Collection....Ive seen several of your other vids....very nice!

 

[ThomasH]

Why feed live if it will take p/k? Is that how you get your jollies?

 

[Meaningless End]

Why feed live if it will take p/k? Is that how you get your jollies?

no they where just out of frozen mice and i didnt feel like pre killing it.. alot of people do enjoy seeing a live feeding.. so i went ahead and fed live.. i dont do it very often but ocationaly i do for videos.

i make no apologys.

 

[Archnophil]

no they where just out of frozen mice and i didnt feel like pre killing it.. alot of people do enjoy seeing a live feeding.. so i went ahead and fed live.. i dont do it very often but ocationaly i do for videos.

i make no apologys.

I like to watch live feedings personally, and your Scrub handled it very well

 

[nightbreed]

Nice vid, you've got some really cool animals there

Personally I see live feeding as an occasional necessary evil, not something that should be enjoyed, just my opinion.

Take care

 

[ThomasH]

no they where just out of frozen mice and i didnt feel like pre killing it.. alot of people do enjoy seeing a live feeding.. so i went ahead and fed live.. i dont do it very often but ocationaly i do for videos.

i make no apologys.

If you love your animals than you wouldn't feed live. Just one blink of an eye and your snake could have a permanent scar or even face death.

 

[Archnophil]

If you love your animals than you wouldn't feed live. Just one blink of an eye and your snake could have a permanent scar or even face death.

If you feed appropritly sized foods and use nessesary precautions then there is NO WAY your animal can be come harmed.

These snakes are designed to take prey live by using quick, accurate strikes and powerful constriction to render most food items immobil im a matter of ussually seconds.

Its one thing to leave live food with a disinterested snake or other Herp(bad idea). But to offer a live meal to a hungry, aggressive Herp is totally accpetable im my eyes.

My $0.02

-Phil.

 

[nightbreed]

Bull poop, there is always a risk when you feed live food.

I'm not a fan of live feeding, I have made no secret about that and the only reason I can see for doing it is if you have an animal that will not eat pre-killed.
I realise that if someone wants to feed their animals live food then my likes or dislikes are immaterial so I don't debate the point anymore, but please don't try and fool yourself by saying there is no risk to your herp, there most definitely is.

My 2 pence worth

Take care.

 

[hairmetalspider]

If you feed appropritly sized foods and use nessesary precautions then there is NO WAY your animal can be come harmed.

These snakes are designed to take prey live by using quick, accurate strikes and powerful constriction to render most food items immobil im a matter of ussually seconds.

Its one thing to leave live food with a disinterested snake or other Herp(bad idea). But to offer a live meal to a hungry, aggressive Herp is totally accpetable im my eyes.

My $0.02

-Phil.

That's BS.

Live 'prey' can most definitely injure a snake or any other reptile, period. I don't care how big it is. (Unless your talking live pinkies, which is just revolting anyways and a lot of petshops don't carry these.)

 

[lostriverdoc]

I presently have 18 snakes, 6 of which are Crotalus ( rattlesnakes). I feed every snake except the rattlesnakes pre-killed. The reason for this (and some may debate the issue ), is because the venom starts the digestion process and makes it easier on the snake. I know some Crotalus owners who only feed their snakes F/T and that's OK for them if that's what they want to do. I'm not going to tell them they can't do that it's their choice. As is my choice to feed live.

 

[Meaningless End]

ok fine.. a debate it is...

to say that feeding my animals live is going to possibly kill them is a bit far fetched.. ya a bite can happen. and ive sceen snakes get scared up plenty of times. but death just isnt going to happen not when the food is the apropriate size and the snake is in feed mode. the ONLY pictures of a snake being killed by its food or the ONLY refrences any of you are going to be able to give me about live prey killing a snake is when the rodent was left with a snake over night or for a extended period of time.

while i will be the first to admit that everything is possible it definatly is FAR from probable. i have a better chance getting struck by lightning then my snake did getting killed by that mouse.

when i feed my monitor live it is because i feel it gives him some sort of stimulation.. live prey is a good way to give your monitor exersize and they seem to enjoy chasing down and killing there own prey. i mean ive alwready had him taken from the wild and put him in a cage.. the least thing i can do is make sure that he is stimulated and gets whatever pleasures i can possible offer him.

 

[ThomasH]

You sound very naive. Pages and pages full of the consequences of the most preventable mistakes. Look on this thread, most survived with only scars, some are disabled for life and need extra work to be taken care of, and yes some snakes lost their lives.
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/feeding/15585-thinking-about-feeding-live-welcome-live-pile.html

 

[ThomasH]

the ONLY pictures of a snake being killed by its food or the ONLY refrences any of you are going to be able to give me about live prey killing a snake is when the rodent was left with a snake over night or for a extended period of time.QUOTE]

You'd be surprised, please just poke around in my link!

 

[Meaningless End]

You sound very naive. Pages and pages full of the consequences of the most preventable mistakes. Look on this thread, most survived with only scars, some are disabled for life and need extra work to be taken care of, and yes some snakes lost their lives.
http://www.redtailboa.net/forums/feeding/15585-thinking-about-feeding-live-welcome-live-pile.html

i would hardly call that pages and pages... i only found two storys (after 15 pages) where the snake got tagged while striking.. which i never said couldent happen..everything else was just bad husbantry all togeather... but seeing as how thats only the second time that snakes eatin live in the 6 months that ive had it i wouldnt say hes had much to worry about.

here is another reference....
http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=33981

 

[ThomasH]

I'm not even going to argue about this with you after this post. It only takes one feeding to have a snake injured, killed, etc. Where do you draw the line? You know why all the stories had bad husbandry involved? Because feeding live is bad husbandry! The animal neglectors do lots of bad husbandry stuff. I rank feeding live as one of the stupidest things you can do.

 

[P. Novak]

I'm a person that does both from time to time, more F/T feeding only cause it's better FINANCIALLY for me. I see NOTHING wrong with live feeding; simply put, it's NATURAL! No one comes to feed F/T food in the wild to snakes or monitors. Give it a break, you can't fight nature. Snakes were designed to kill and feed on live animals only when humans decided to feed dead prey items did it become more acceptable and preferred. Live is A OK in my mind as long as it's appropriate sized... Don't feed a bunny or big rat to a cornsnake is what I'm saying.

Check this out..
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Yes, most people use CO2 to kill their feeder mice, but answer me this. Isn't the mouse sufficating in this process? Hm, doesn't the mouse sufficate during a constriction? hmm

 

[ThomasH]

Who here kills cows with their bare hands and rocks like the Neandrathaws used to?

Didn't think so. I guess you can throw that argument away. You ARE right it is natural, but is it really worth risking your snake's lives. There is a difference between killing through constriction and CO2 chambers. Constriction=force CO2=going to sleep and never waking up. Some horrible things happen in nature, do we really have to have those "things" under our watch too?

Sorry couldn't help but post again.