Exposure to lysol

[TheraMygale]

Update 4! Little man is doing great This morning he had a tiny isopod stuck to his leg hair which tells me he’d been walking around on the dirt lol. Im hanging out with him now and hes walking around it and seems to be doing perfect. He even spun some nice webbing on his new cork bark Im so grateful that hes alright, that was truly a terrifying experience and i will make sure that anything like that will never happen again, ever. I strive to give my little buddy the best life possible



thank you! im gonna invest in something to measure the moisture in there just because hes spoiled lol. im always checking up on him and his little mini climate



thank you! ill always be keeping a close eye on my little man! best regard to you too

The moisture thing wont give you accurate reads inside enclosure. I prefer on my living space because i know its more humid already in the enclosure.

i also gauge moisture by the coloured layers in the substrate.

 

[Glorfindel]

Americans obsession with a germ free world is a losing battle.

 

[Gevo]

We don't know what causes DKS in tarantulas, and invertebrate systems react to a lot of these substances differently than mammalian systems do, but also keep in mind that toxicity reports that make a lot of things seem like big ol' cancer bombs for mammals (and even then, usually only mice) are not using realistic exposure types and exposure amounts. There's a lot of fear mongering out there when it comes to "chemicals". Remember: everything is made up of chemicals.

Also remember that a lot of times, you'll see "advice" on here or other spaces telling you that "natural" products are inherently safer for your tarantula, and that is absolutely false. Nature contains tons of arachnocides and insecticides.

The danger is that chemical exposures, whether with man-made or natural, are a big unknown when it comes to tarantulas. Products like Lysol are a no-no around them, but beyond a few things, we also don't actually know what is safe or in what concentrations or types of usage it's safe, so approach this with more of a "we don't know enough about these animals" lens than a "chemicals = BAD" lens.

Also, yes: Our obsession with germ-free environments is ridiculous and unhealthy.

 

[TheraMygale]

To give @Gevo a bump, look up Borax.

it is in most “natural cleaning products”.

yep, borax comes from a natural found source. Its mind mostly in Boron, California. And in Turkey. Its not grown in a lab. But it can kill just as so, depending on its form. Because borax can be changed.

no one needs to be a chem specialist to read the ingredient list. And then, google search an ingredient. The information is all out that. Even the safe usage data sheets.

I encourage everyone to do some basic chem research every now and then. You develop a chem sense. You figure out what products are safer to use around the house, what is better for outdoors. What is super bad for nature.

everyone can read the information. Its free and accessible.

i still remember a sad story of @Wolf135 and the fumigation of their building. Its a thread worth reading.

All of my Ts died

The fumigation happened and they somehow died, they were in a laundry room that wasn't fumigated and was detached from the house even had a dog in it and somehow they all died, thing was that the fumigation was only a few hours I lost my LP sling, my b boehmei, my T albo and my T vagans Don't...

arachnoboards.com

 

[Gevo]

Another example would be white vinegar: A wonderful natural cleaner, but while it's safe to use on tubs, tiles, laminate, stainless steel, and glass, it will quickly damage granite countertops. In its 5% acetic acid form, it's quite benign and perfectly safe to use without protective equipment, and in its 6% cleaning vinegar concentration, gloves are recommended because it's strong enough to damage your skin. And in the super-concentrated 35% or 75% formulations, it can be extremely caustic and will badly burn your skin, eyes, and lungs if touched or inhaled. "Poison" isn't just about substance; it's also about application and dosage.

I remember that fumigation incident too. What an awful thing.

 

[TheraMygale]

Another example would be white vinegar: A wonderful natural cleaner, but while it's safe to use on tubs, tiles, laminate, stainless steel, and glass, it will quickly damage granite countertops. In its 5% acetic acid form, it's quite benign and perfectly safe to use without protective equipment, and in its 6% cleaning vinegar concentration, gloves are recommended because it's strong enough to damage your skin. And in the super-concentrated 35% or 75% formulations, it can be extremely caustic and will badly burn your skin, eyes, and lungs if touched or inhaled. "Poison" isn't just about substance; it's also about application and dosage.

I remember that fumigation incident too. What an awful thing.

So true on concentrations. For real disinfectant properties, especialy in barns for exemple, you need 12% atleast. 5 works, but its too low.