Exo Terra Breeding Boxes

[Quinquangular]

I like how the look and how they are all the same color and shape, if you buy the same shape for them.
Should I get one?
So far I have a Rose Hair that is about 4" and a female, and I plan on keeping her in one of these Breeding Boxes for the rest of her life.
I plan on getting the large size, which is 16.3" long, 10.4" wide, and 5.8" tall.

Should I get this?
http://www.amazon.com/Exo-Terra-Bre...109523&sr=1-1&keywords=exo+terra+breeding+box

Or should I get this
http://www.amazon.com/Exo-Terra-Fau...id=1386031923&sr=1-33&keywords=wide+terrarium

Amazon cancelled my order of the flat home so I have to reorder tonight within an hour from now before it's too late to come fast.
So, please tell me which one I should get. I want the Breeding boxes..
BUT.. I'm worried since both the Exo terra Faunarium and the Breeder boxes are pretty short. D:

 

[Poec54]

Short as in height? Unless it's an arboreal or a terrestrial that likes to dig deep burrows, short cages are fine. The floor space is more than adequate for a rosea.

 

[Quinquangular]

Short as in height? Unless it's an arboreal or a terrestrial that likes to dig deep burrows, short cages are fine. The floor space is more than adequate for a rosea.

Oh okay thanks.
I don't know, maybe I'm just really worried.
I know rosies are terrestrial but I thought they might climb walls here and there, but thanks so much for the confirming words.
I will buy one Large Breeder Box as they look very clean compared to Kritter Keepers and have like two doors, and a dollar cheaper. It's a tad bit smaller, but I don't think it's a big deal.
Unless, you recommend the Kritter Keeper over the large breeder box, but I doubt there isn't a huge difference. Just price and less than an inch or so in some dimensions.

Should I buy more of these once my B. smithi grows pretty big? I bought a Brachy 3 pack for sale so maybe I can buy three large breeder boxes in the long future, since they grow fast.


And I think 2.5" of substrate should do, agreed?
Edit: JUST BOUGHT the Breeder Box that is large.
I hope it was a good choice to keep my Adult Rosie in from now on, since I get it in the mail!
2" of substrate is what I'll do, maybe 2.5

 

[sezra]

to be honest, both would be fine. I keep my rosie in something very similar to those, and my obt will be going into one when its ready, as she likes to dig, rather than web. rosies dont really climb unless they dislike the substrate they are on. in my experience, for rosies, keep it dry. they dislike too much humidity, however, dont forget to include a water bowl

 

[Quinquangular]

to be honest, both would be fine. I keep my rosie in something very similar to those, and my obt will be going into one when its ready, as she likes to dig, rather than web. rosies dont really climb unless they dislike the substrate they are on. in my experience, for rosies, keep it dry. they dislike too much humidity, however, dont forget to include a water bowl

Yep, I read caresheets about how you can overflow it a bit since Rosies don't like wet substrate, it's good to get some humidity up by overflowing.
I'll keep it at 2" substrate.
Should the substrate be moist enough to keep it's shape when squeezed, but not drip any water? Or is that too moist. Because they burrow.. I assume that the substrate needs to be moist enough to hold shape but nothing more.
And what should I do if it's in premolt? I know the humidity should be pretty high-ish so that it can molt good, as humidity is a factor. Should I mist the enclosure if she is in premolt, like upside down and such? Haven't read anything about that specifically.

 

[vespers]

I kept one in the medium exo terra breeder box for quite some time.

 

[sezra]

Yep, I read caresheets about how you can overflow it a bit since Rosies don't like wet substrate, it's good to get some humidity up by overflowing.
I'll keep it at 2" substrate.
Should the substrate be moist enough to keep it's shape when squeezed, but not drip any water? Or is that too moist. Because they burrow.. I assume that the substrate needs to be moist enough to hold shape but nothing more.
And what should I do if it's in premolt? I know the humidity should be pretty high-ish so that it can molt good, as humidity is a factor. Should I mist the enclosure if she is in premolt, like upside down and such? Haven't read anything about that specifically.

To be honest, my rosie dosent dig, and she never has... i think its actually pretty rare for them to duplicate this behavior in captivity, but more substrate will not hurt as its not unheard of.

When I started in the hobby, I read care sheets that said to mist once a week. I can tell you now, its not necessary, in fact, it stresses them out. My rosie would climb her enclosure when it was moist, and as soon as I stopped doing it, she laid an egg sack. That tells me they favor dryer conditions. Honestly, rosies dont require much. Make sure you provide a hide, food and water, and they are happy.

as for pre molt.... rosies are known to fast. Mine didnt eat for 6 months, they are infamous for it.

 

[Quinquangular]

To be honest, my rosie dosent dig, and she never has... i think its actually pretty rare for them to duplicate this behavior in captivity, but more substrate will not hurt as its not unheard of.

When I started in the hobby, I read care sheets that said to mist once a week. I can tell you now, its not necessary, in fact, it stresses them out. My rosie would climb her enclosure when it was moist, and as soon as I stopped doing it, she laid an egg sack. That tells me they favor dryer conditions. Honestly, rosies dont require much. Make sure you provide a hide, food and water, and they are happy.

as for pre molt.... rosies are known to fast. Mine didnt eat for 6 months, they are infamous for it.

I bought a large cork bark round, which I will hacksaw or whatever in half, then cut one of the halfs into a suitable arched hide for her to hide in when I get her, tomorrow I believe!
Okay, sure.
So you don't recommend me to mist the enclosure even if she's going to molt, like when she's on her back? Because I heard humidity is a key issue for some failed molts, but of course there are other factors like over feeding

 

[sezra]

I bought a large cork bark round, which I will hacksaw or whatever in half, then cut one of the halfs into a suitable arched hide for her to hide in when I get her, tomorrow I believe!
Okay, sure.
So you don't recommend me to mist the enclosure even if she's going to molt, like when she's on her back? Because I heard humidity is a key issue for some failed molts, but of course there are other factors like over feeding

there are a million things that can affect a molt. The best advise i can can give you is to replicate the natural habitat which the T comes from. My rosie has molted twice in my care, and i never mist her.

do not interfere with yours when its on is back though!

I keep mine on a dry substrate, but with access to a water dish. she feeds 1-2 times a week, except shes not eaten for the last 2 weeks. she molted last year and did the same thing, so she may be fasting again, and may be in pre molt.

you will soon recognize whats going on with these guys .

 

[Quinquangular]

there are a million things that can affect a molt. The best advise i can can give you is to replicate the natural habitat which the T comes from. My rosie has molted twice in my care, and i never mist her.

do not interfere with yours when its on is back though!

I keep mine on a dry substrate, but with access to a water dish. she feeds 1-2 times a week, except shes not eaten for the last 2 weeks. she molted last year and did the same thing, so she may be fasting again, and may be in pre molt.

you will soon recognize whats going on with these guys .

Haha, alright. Thanks.
I might get this again for my OBT, once it grows to like 2.5" and is more of a digger than a semi-arboreal. Since these look really safe, with the small side doors to feed. Open, drop, and close and watch it destroy.. Not your finger but your prey xD

 

[viper69]

I bought a large cork bark round, which I will hacksaw or whatever in half, then cut one of the halfs into a suitable arched hide for her to hide in when I get her, tomorrow I believe!
Okay, sure.
So you don't recommend me to mist the enclosure even if she's going to molt, like when she's on her back? Because I heard humidity is a key issue for some failed molts, but of course there are other factors like over feeding

Depending upon how large the round is, you may actually have to use something else for a hide, as cutting it in half may still be too large. When you don't pick out cork bark yourself, it can be frustrating, as its shape is irregular


I like the design of the breeder box, I like the larger size of their Faunarium. Why didn't they just make them the same size jeez.

 

[Quinquangular]

Depending upon how large the round is, you may actually have to use something else for a hide, as cutting it in half may still be too large. When you don't pick out cork bark yourself, it can be frustrating, as its shape is irregular


I like the design of the breeder box, I like the larger size of their Faunarium. Why didn't they just make them the same size jeez.

Yeah, I wish it was a bit bigger.
but anyways, it's not like a inch or half an inch or so off from the Kritter Keeper is a huge deal.
I think the design and small feeding doors are ingenious, and compensate for the "smaller" size. This looks like a safe bet for more dangerous species like an OBT.

Well, if I cut it in half and it's not as good, I can cut it more, or just dig the bark into the substrate.
D:

 

[vespers]

I like the design of the breeder box, I like the larger size of their Faunarium. Why didn't they just make them the same size jeez.

Few T's would require something the size of that larger Faunarium, which has floor space roughly equivalent to a 10 gallon aquarium.

The large sized Faunarium and large sized breeder box aren't really necessary for a G. rosea especially. Usually they tend to sit in one place for about 3 days, then move a few inches and sit again for another 3 days or so. :laugh:

 

[shebeen]

Yep, I read caresheets about how you can overflow it a bit since Rosies don't like wet substrate, it's good to get some humidity up by overflowing.
I'll keep it at 2" substrate.
Should the substrate be moist enough to keep it's shape when squeezed, but not drip any water? Or is that too moist. Because they burrow.. I assume that the substrate needs to be moist enough to hold shape but nothing more.
And what should I do if it's in premolt? I know the humidity should be pretty high-ish so that it can molt good, as humidity is a factor. Should I mist the enclosure if she is in premolt, like upside down and such? Haven't read anything about that specifically.

You need to read MISTING and HUMIDITY and everything else on Stans' site.

 

[Stan Schultz]

Yep, I read caresheets ...

AAAAAARRRGGHHH!

Read Care Sheets.

... about how you can overflow it a bit ...

When you go into the kitchen to get a drink of water, do you automatically pour a little on the floor?

When you go to the bathroom, do you automatically *** a little on the floor?

What gives you to think that you need to pour water on the cage floor of a desert dweller?

You need to do your homework! You need read the entire Spiders, Calgary website.

... since Rosies don't like wet substrate, ...

So, why are you pouring water on the substrate?

... it's good to get some humidity up by overflowing. ...

Why would you think humidity would be that critical for a desert dweller?


Are we hopeless? Or...

 

[Poec54]

When you go to the bathroom, do you automatically *** a little on the floor?

Actually, yes. But I blame it on the dog.

 

[Quinquangular]

AAAAAARRRGGHHH!

Read Care Sheets.



When you go into the kitchen to get a drink of water, do you automatically pour a little on the floor?

When you go to the bathroom, do you automatically *** a little on the floor?

What gives you to think that you need to pour water on the cage floor of a desert dweller?

You need to do your homework! You need read the entire Spiders, Calgary website.




So, why are you pouring water on the substrate?



Why would you think humidity would be that critical for a desert dweller?


Are we hopeless? Or...

I'll get to reading the rest of it.
I just didn't understand how a tarantula can make a burrow in bone dry substrate, then I was told that the web in it, which I stupidly never thought of, and how the webbing is additional support. I've been owning scorpions, so they are a bit different on how they burrow, and I never thought of a T using it's web to make a burrow and make it not collapse.
Now I see. Sorry.
I thought humidity was an issue for some species since molts can go wrong for many reasons, and I've read humidity can be one of the reasons that can be easily fixed.
I didn't pour water on the substrate, I just poured clean water into the brick and dried it out, it's barely moist now, it's pretty dry. It'll dry out more in the next day or so, since the Ts are coming today or tomorrow.
I just didn't really connect the fact that a T uses it's webbing for support in a burrow, if they make one, so that's why I was really confused when people said to use dry substrate, since dry substrate can't hold itself.

Sorry again. I'll finish the article since I'm at school and I have a decent amount of freetime.
If I have some meaningful questions after, then I'll ask.

I guess it's my fault for trying to be spoon fed, I suppose.
Edit: Read a lot so far. Learned some new things. Got the main point on one of the articles: DONT READ CARE SHEETS. I'm not that type of guy that freaks out if the temperature is off by 2 degrees or whatever. Lol.
I'll keep reading, the Rose Hair guide on keeping one is straight forward and now I know. Dry substrate, don't bother it with food for a week when you get it, and let it settle in. NO heat stuff, keep it away from light but be able to see day/night, keep a water bowl with clean water, don't spray. A couple of inches of dry compact substrate is good. Erm.. If it stays on the walls of the enclosure (I'm sure mine won't since I dried my substrate), it's 'cuz it's on a "fit" and doesn't like the substrate, or getting used to it, and it'll be okay in a week or so.
I just summed up what I learned since I have nothing to do at school at the moment and would like to refresh my memory by putting it here so I know what to do for sure!

 

[Silberrücken]

When you go to the bathroom, do you automatically *** a little on the floor?

Actually, yes. But I blame it on the dog.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: