everything about Parabuthus Liosoma ??info please

superuglyllc

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got a phone call from a local dealer and he wants to give me a p. liosoma. i know a little from a long time ago, but not enough..info// pics//// everything !
 

Roblicious

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a lot of these questions can be answered by using the search function or going to google.com

but to answer this, they spray, are not communal, and like it hot and dry
 

snippy

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But, when breeding it seems many who try encounter problems. You won't see to many bred young out there. In addition the rate of wild catches with mycosis is rather high, which leads to the suspicion that (at least when it comes to gravid females) a rather high humidity is necessary.

Regards
Finn
 

Hendersoniana

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Interesting, so the care for brooding mothers could be similar or even equivalent to that of a hadrurus arizonensis?
 

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But, when breeding it seems many who try encounter problems. You won't see to many bred young out there. In addition the rate of wild catches with mycosis is rather high, which leads to the suspicion that (at least when it comes to gravid females) a rather high humidity is necessary.

Regards
Finn

Umm.. I kept mine the same as P. Trans and had a successful brood with another along the way. I talked to two other forum members before doing so, and they both said that exact same thing. Maybe its true, maybe its a misconception.
 

snippy

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Umm.. I kept mine the same as P. Trans and had a successful brood with another along the way. I talked to two other forum members before doing so, and they both said that exact same thing. Maybe its true, maybe its a misconception.
Interesting enough ;) I have too had this topic before with some breeders, so what I mentioned above is not only my imagination.
But who knows. I nevertheless find the corrolation between P. liosoma and mycosis in wild catches very peculiar.

Regards
Finn
 

jake9134

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When I got my p. liosoma from a vendor at a reptile show (recent import) it was on damp peak/potting soil. So maybe the importers are shipping them damp not knowing the problems it can cause. luckily I replaced her substrate before she got mycosis.
 

shebeen

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I've read that most (90%) wild caught H. arizonensis have some degree of mycosis.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was true for other desert species.
 

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im picking him up tomm for 15bucks for adult male tomm. cant wait !
That's an amazingly cheap price. Make sure he's clean and fiesty. Priced that low he could be old or sick.

I keep mine on an inch of 70% sand/30% dry cocofiber. Waterdish i fill once a week. Feed them a lat or two per week. Do great.

Sadly, unlike P. trans, they do not spray venom nor do they have an amazing feeding response. Especially as babies, they are very timid, much like sculpts. I'd say trans are like gracilis in that respect.

They also are not as active as transvaalicus. Usually stay hidden unless hungry or rennovating, which one female I have does often.

Despite all of this.

They are my favorite specie.
 

superuglyllc

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its a healthy adult male , his pet store closed and he needs to make money back on the lose . so him and an adult hottentotta (had 6 babies)(housing 1 sling of his/hers)(i heard males get preg too? is that true?) im taking home for 30 for both or just either 1 for 15. pretty sure p liosoma is a male but ill post a pic when i get him to double check with you guys
 

Roblicious

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im pretty sure you can sex them from the 'bulbs' on their claws, like th pic you referenced would be a female.

correct me if i am wrong though if anyone can chime in
 

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Too lazy to got take and upload pics of my pair, but yeah the sexual dimorphism is really obvious. Also as pointed out to me the pectines on the female have a notice-able lobe shape where the join.
 

snippy

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You can sex many Parabuthus spec. bei the males having bulbous mani, but that only works on adults.

What Bayushi is referring to are the proximal median lamellae of the females (of at least every Parabuthus spec. that is known in the hobby), and that shows even in the lowest instars. Those lamellae are no pectinal teeth by the way, but enlarged lamellae (as the name suggests)
You can see it here: Caresheet for P. pallidus

Not P. liosoma, but that does not matter

Regards
Finn
 

superuglyllc

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im about to built a terrarium for p lio need some pointers and must haves to make this tank... anyone can help?
 

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im about to built a terrarium for p lio need some pointers and must haves to make this tank... anyone can help?

As with all desert species, but from an area with actual dirt. so like 70/30 sand/cocofiber or 80/20.

I do two hides, one close to the heat source, one away, as per scrapes, since they use scrapes and do not burrow. Offer a waterdish and fill it once a week.

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