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Dart frogs don't hibernate and if its stopped eating long enought to get skinny (doesn't take long) then its not going to bounce back.
Euthanizing a frog?
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Dear Eternal:
"Mercy" killings are "merciful..." -To whom?
An unconscious animal may not be "suffering..." but YOU are.
-Don't know whether the animal IS unconscious...?
-Or would desire death.
We really do not know.
What we DO know is that proceeding to kill a weaker creature can give
a man a sense of "control" over death.
More control than he has.
Death is absolute.
And beyond his control.
That may be why it is so hard to face death.
Even the death of a very small frog.
However,its body may have information.
"What happened here..."
"Something that I CAN stop...?"
Very truthfully yours,
Louise Esther Rothstein.
"Mercy" killings are "merciful..." -To whom?
An unconscious animal may not be "suffering..." but YOU are.
-Don't know whether the animal IS unconscious...?
-Or would desire death.
We really do not know.
What we DO know is that proceeding to kill a weaker creature can give
a man a sense of "control" over death.
More control than he has.
Death is absolute.
And beyond his control.
That may be why it is so hard to face death.
Even the death of a very small frog.
However,its body may have information.
"What happened here..."
"Something that I CAN stop...?"
Very truthfully yours,
Louise Esther Rothstein.
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Uhh...nice haiku there. :?
EDIT: Anyway, I probably wouldn't have frozen the frog, since they seem to have so much water in their bodies and it might hurt them more than anything else. But OP, you probably did the right thing in ending it, one way or another.
EDIT: Anyway, I probably wouldn't have frozen the frog, since they seem to have so much water in their bodies and it might hurt them more than anything else. But OP, you probably did the right thing in ending it, one way or another.
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Yeah, um not exactly sure what Louise E. Rothstein is trying to say, or if it really makes pertains to this matter.
Anyway I just thought I'd share my story with a sick frog.
Last year I got a Large White Lipped Tree Frog (WLTF) from the Reptile Depot at the NARBC in Tinley Park. He was perfect in everyway, except for some slight sore on his nose. Over the next week, he started to get black spots, soon afterwards, white boils would apear where ever a black spot had been previously. I did reasearch, and found that he had a bacterial infection spreading through his blood stream, most likely originating form the sore on his nose. I began to administer Neosporin to all black spots with no visible effect. By the next morning, he was covered with black spots, I knew that something must be done or he would be coverd in white boils, so I put him in the freezer and he died rather quickly. Now that I think about it, freezing probably isn't the best method for amphibians cause they are composed of so much water it would be painful. Yet I'm still firm with my decision of ending my tree frogs life and spareing him an even slower and agonizing death. ~ Rex
Anyway I just thought I'd share my story with a sick frog.
Last year I got a Large White Lipped Tree Frog (WLTF) from the Reptile Depot at the NARBC in Tinley Park. He was perfect in everyway, except for some slight sore on his nose. Over the next week, he started to get black spots, soon afterwards, white boils would apear where ever a black spot had been previously. I did reasearch, and found that he had a bacterial infection spreading through his blood stream, most likely originating form the sore on his nose. I began to administer Neosporin to all black spots with no visible effect. By the next morning, he was covered with black spots, I knew that something must be done or he would be coverd in white boils, so I put him in the freezer and he died rather quickly. Now that I think about it, freezing probably isn't the best method for amphibians cause they are composed of so much water it would be painful. Yet I'm still firm with my decision of ending my tree frogs life and spareing him an even slower and agonizing death. ~ Rex
Perhaps a nearby vet would be willing to use an overdose of anesthetizing gas...I've seen vets put snakes and turtles under (for procedures) using a clear sealed box and gas, possibly it could work for a frog. It would probably be ideal- it would just go to sleep. I wish you and your frog the best.
Sick frog? As far as frogs go, all I can tell you is they're Ambi-Fibby-Ins or some such like that. Cool little critters.
Sick critter with no chance at recovery? That I think I do know something about.
I'd say if you're sure it's not going to get better, then waiting is only going to make you feel worse about it. To put it out of its misery, I suggest crushing its skull. Sounds brutal, but its fast and its simple and you don't need to buy any drugs/pay a vet. Oh, and while I'm not a doctor or anything, but if the frog does actually feel anything the feeling will last less time than it takes to pop a ballon.
If it's your pet, its your responsibility to take care of ALL of its needs. If it needs to be put down...
FTR: It's not uncommon for recently deceased critters to twitch/thrash. As I understand it, it's soley a reflexive action and (at least in the case of fish and various barnyard animals) further trauma will not end the reflexes.
Sick critter with no chance at recovery? That I think I do know something about.
I'd say if you're sure it's not going to get better, then waiting is only going to make you feel worse about it. To put it out of its misery, I suggest crushing its skull. Sounds brutal, but its fast and its simple and you don't need to buy any drugs/pay a vet. Oh, and while I'm not a doctor or anything, but if the frog does actually feel anything the feeling will last less time than it takes to pop a ballon.
If it's your pet, its your responsibility to take care of ALL of its needs. If it needs to be put down...
FTR: It's not uncommon for recently deceased critters to twitch/thrash. As I understand it, it's soley a reflexive action and (at least in the case of fish and various barnyard animals) further trauma will not end the reflexes.
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Sorry, I would have trouble crushing the skull of a pet that I became attached to. Possibly the most humane, peaceful way would be to use carbon dioxide.
Refill cannisters for paintball guns have C02.
Refill cannisters for paintball guns have C02.
Whipits? Lol, what a way to kills something. Carbon Monoxide would kill it in a much more peaceful manner, sleep, paralysis, and then death, no pain involved. But considering how old this thread is, I'm curious, is the frog dead, or alive?
After only a week or so of a frog not eating I wouldn't consider killing it. It would be much wiser to look at the enclosures temperatures, lighting and humidity because that is most likely where the problem is if the frog is not eating. Also I am not familiar with force feeding a frog but I have done it with snakes before and have been successful. I would not be against trying it with a frog. Also offering a huger variety of prey items in an attempt to get the frog to feed would be a good idea. But anyways seeing the age of the thread the frog is likely no longer among the living. Sorry for your loss if this is the case.
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Frogs can last for a long time without O2. Co2 poisoning causes them to spasm so I don't think it is very humane.
Again, vets/labs use the Oragel method.