drift wood?

[Code Monkey]

also, there is more than just "germs" to worry about

protistas, algae, mold, fungus... all those are present in nature and are in no way host specific, and yet can produce nasty effects

And all of them present in every single terrarium in the known world that is kept anything but dry.

I'm not saying there aren't things that can cause problems, but I am saying there is no more reason to believe a piece of drift wood or a chunk of wood off your firewood pile is carrying them than your hands after a day at the office.

 

[cacoseraph]

And all of them present in every single terrarium in the known world that is kept anything but dry.

I'm not saying there aren't things that can cause problems, but I am saying there is no more reason to believe a piece of drift wood or a chunk of wood off your firewood pile is carrying them than your hands after a day at the office.

i'm not sure if i agree with you 100% but i see your point

but if i was given the choice between probably introducing 15 new species of life to my terrarium or not, i would choose not

 

[Code Monkey]

but if i was given the choice between probably introducing 15 new species of life to my terrarium or not, i would choose not

You miss the point: you don't have that choice.

Fungal and bacterial spores are everywhere except a clean room environment. Small arthropods are readily transferred short distances by air currents or on feeder insects.

If you don't maintain a clean room to raise your Ts in, every terrarium will have a host of organisms other than your T in it the minute you expose it to the air unless you keep it dry.

 

[cacoseraph]

You miss the point: you don't have that choice.

Fungal and bacterial spores are everywhere except a clean room environment. Small arthropods are readily transferred short distances by air currents or on feeder insects.

If you don't maintain a clean room to raise your Ts in, every terrarium will have a host of organisms other than your T in it the minute you expose it to the air unless you keep it dry.

i don't doubt that... what i am saying is that given the choice, i would choose to limit species introduction as much as possible

and you will never convince me that the same stuff lives on your hands as lives in the bottom of a pond or whatever. so while you probably CAN'T control "hand carried" introductions you CAN limit introducing stuff from a swamp or beach or where ever the wood came from

 

[Code Monkey]

and you will never convince me that the same stuff lives on your hands as lives in the bottom of a pond or whatever.

That's not what I said, what I said was that you were as likely to have a *dangerous* pathogen carried in by your hands as you were on a piece of natural wood.

At any rate, my main point is that there's no practical benefit to most "sterilising" that some invert keepers perform.

 

[cacoseraph]

That's not what I said, what I said was that you were as likely to have a *dangerous* pathogen carried in by your hands as you were on a piece of natural wood.

At any rate, my main point is that there's no practical benefit to most "sterilising" that some invert keepers perform.

i misunderstood you, sorry

 

[Lopez]

That's not what I said, what I said was that you were as likely to have a *dangerous* pathogen carried in by your hands as you were on a piece of natural wood.

At any rate, my main point is that there's no practical benefit to most "sterilising" that some invert keepers perform.

Exactly. Unless you keep your spiders in a vacuum then all these "sterelise to the nth degree" procedures become a waste of time.

 

[wolfpak]

its ok to use it bro.

i've been using driftwood (philippines) for a long time with my tarantulas, without any problem