Dolomedes sp. ID

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Yep i have been looking in the normal places for widows. Around houses, under porches/steps, under debri/wood, under mower decks, garbge lids, etc. Im not really looking for lynx, but wouldnt mind getting some pics of some. Haha, i noticed my Dolomedes ID turned into a trip record. I kinda did it myself by adding pics of other things, but its fine.
loxoscelesfear said:
widows are just about anywhere. check debris piles and trash along roads. i find them in gas meter pits when at gas stations. lids usually come off. Lynx are in shrubs and bushes with flowers where they ambush insects, even bees larger than the spider itself. find anything else, post some pics. sorry for hijacking this thread into a "How's your Carolina trip going?"
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AmysAnimals said:
I can never find any interesting spiders out here. I guess I am not looking hard enough. I know they are out here! lol I know we have tarantulas and such in the desert. I found that sac spider, but the most I see are widows and widows freak me out lol I would love to find more spiders like jumping spiders and such.

You have found some awesome spiders there, and a cool centipede!
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SoCAL has soooo many spiders! SoCal, Arizona & Florida arguably have the most diverse arachnid populations in the country.
 
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catfishrod69 said:
MM K. hibernalis, oh no that sucks. I am dieing to find a female or two. Cant find them anywhere. Been checking old garages and havent seen any.
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Around here, I occasionally find one in my husband's scrap piles. (The latest had taken up residence in a crevice in the scrap lumber behind the shed.) My husband has also found them under decking while doing repairs.
 
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It kinda seems like i know where to find them, but theyre just not there. I have looked under porches/decks, under houses, in and around old barns/garages, under debri, stacks of wood. The most i have found this way is common house spiders and some skinks. I am going to the peoples old house tomorrow to visit neighbors. I have permission to hunt all of that. Last year i found alot of L. mactans/L. variolus there. So this time im hoping to find the same and also some hibernalis and lynx. Thanks.
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Around here, I occasionally find one in my husband's scrap piles. (The latest had taken up residence in a crevice in the scrap lumber behind the shed.) My husband has also found them under decking while doing repairs.
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Found 20 new fishing spiders today. Went to a place called "the rock", its basically a long series of flat rock with water running down it, and has many "still" spots for water to lay. I also seen a very cool looking caterpillar that was green with black zebra markings and a huge black head with orange eyes. I left him webbed inside some leaves. Seen a few waterscorpions, whirligigs, shrimp, and a small water snake i didnt get to in time to see very well.

These fishing spiders im pretty positive are D. triton. Thing is some of the ones that are like a inch long have white stripes, then some that are two inches have yellow stripes, then the ones that are three inches have white stripes again. I seen many of them, but didnt catch them all of course. There was a giant female i caught that had a big eggsac, but i released her. The biggest female in one of the pics looks gravid already. Of course i forgot to take my camera, or i would have gotten some cool shots down at the water level, of the spiders waiting on top the water and under brush in ambush.

These pics on bug guide dont quite match the coloring, because some of the bigger ones are black, but im still sure they are D. triton. http://bugguide.net/node/view/1990


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3877.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3880.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3881.jpg

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FINALLY!!!I had lifted up these peices of wooden trim strips that was laying outside the neighbors house many times over the last week. There were a few little tiny tube webs on the bottom of some of them. I never thought anything of it, because the tubes were so tiny. Well tonight i got bored, and went for my nightly hunt, and this time finally decided to pop open the tubes and see what was in there. Well im glad i did, because i found 7 of the main spiders i am looking for. Bad thing is they are all from tiny to super tiny. As in the two pics, you will see the largest and smallest. I cant believe the abdomens on these little things. Look like ticks sorta. Not sure if i should keep the smallest one, simply because they grow slow, and i dunno what im gonna feed it.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3883.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3885-1.jpg
 
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Found 5 nice female Latrodectus today. Not sure of the mactans/variolus ration yet.
 
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In So. Cal, a good place to find diverse spider species is to visit the arboretums. Near to Riverside are Rancho Santa Ana botanical gardens and the L.A. County arboretum on Baldwin ave. In/near Arcadia. Especially, check out the rose and flower gardens for lynx spiders. Keep in mind, So Cal is a desert and while it has a nice selection of animals, you won't find anywhere near the diversity and population densities of more clement locales. As example, in the desert proper there are only 54 species of native plants.

I suggest if you wish to learn a lot about So. Cal. to spend a day at Rancho Santa Ana. They specialize only in native plants and offer quite a few eye openers in the little secrets of the local plants and animals. Be sure to check out their pine cone exploder if they still operate it.
 
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catfishrod69 said:
It kinda seems like i know where to find them, but theyre just not there. I have looked under porches/decks, under houses, in and around old barns/garages, under debri, stacks of wood. The most i have found this way is common house spiders and some skinks. I am going to the peoples old house tomorrow to visit neighbors. I have permission to hunt all of that. Last year i found alot of L. mactans/L. variolus there. So this time im hoping to find the same and also some hibernalis and lynx. Thanks.

---------- Post added 05-18-2012 at 09:45 PM ----------

Found 20 new fishing spiders today. Went to a place called "the rock", its basically a long series of flat rock with water running down it, and has many "still" spots for water to lay. I also seen a very cool looking caterpillar that was green with black zebra markings and a huge black head with orange eyes. I left him webbed inside some leaves. Seen a few waterscorpions, whirligigs, shrimp, and a small water snake i didnt get to in time to see very well.

These fishing spiders im pretty positive are D. triton. Thing is some of the ones that are like a inch long have white stripes, then some that are two inches have yellow stripes, then the ones that are three inches have white stripes again. I seen many of them, but didnt catch them all of course. There was a giant female i caught that had a big eggsac, but i released her. The biggest female in one of the pics looks gravid already. Of course i forgot to take my camera, or i would have gotten some cool shots down at the water level, of the spiders waiting on top the water and under brush in ambush.

These pics on bug guide dont quite match the coloring, because some of the bigger ones are black, but im still sure they are D. triton. http://bugguide.net/node/view/1990


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3877.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3880.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3881.jpg

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FINALLY!!!I had lifted up these peices of wooden trim strips that was laying outside the neighbors house many times over the last week. There were a few little tiny tube webs on the bottom of some of them. I never thought anything of it, because the tubes were so tiny. Well tonight i got bored, and went for my nightly hunt, and this time finally decided to pop open the tubes and see what was in there. Well im glad i did, because i found 7 of the main spiders i am looking for. Bad thing is they are all from tiny to super tiny. As in the two pics, you will see the largest and smallest. I cant believe the abdomens on these little things. Look like ticks sorta. Not sure if i should keep the smallest one, simply because they grow slow, and i dunno what im gonna feed it.


http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3883.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d29/catfishrod69/DSCF3885-1.jpg
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Love D.crocata I got a couple the same size and bigger I just drop in a gravid isopod out of my colony when she's birthing so the smallers ones can eat them. But that info is only useful if you have an isopod colony lol :p
 
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Hmmm. I have never heard of them. Haha.
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Love D.crocata I got a couple the same size and bigger I just drop in a gravid isopod out of my colony when she's birthing so the smallers ones can eat them. But that info is only useful if you have an isopod colony lol :p
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catfishrod69 said:
Hmmm. I have never heard of them. Haha.
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My apologies I had a quick look at the spider and labelled it wrong lol I thought it was http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?183641-D.-crocata-candy great little spiders some with quite a bad attitude lol.

If you have them in your area (I'm in the UK do I dunno what species we share) I recommend http://www.uksafari.com/florentina.htm and http://www.uksafari.com/lacewebbed.htm are other great little true spiders ( I currently have an Amaurobius sp. sitting on an eggsack, there webbing appears blue under a torch light and great feeding responses. I have another female I fed a blue bottle earlier she wrestled it off the web and had a scrap on the substrate with it lol fearless little things).
 
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Its cool. Yeah i recently had one of those. I turned it loose though. Both those species you showed look alot like the K. hibernalis. Im not sure if we have those in the states. I doubt it. I love seeing the true spiders wrangle their prey.
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My apologies I had a quick look at the spider and labelled it wrong lol I thought it was http://www.arachnoboards.com/ab/showthread.php?183641-D.-crocata-candy great little spiders some with quite a bad attitude lol.

If you have them in your area (I'm in the UK do I dunno what species we share) I recommend http://www.uksafari.com/florentina.htm and http://www.uksafari.com/lacewebbed.htm are other great little true spiders ( I currently have an Amaurobius sp. sitting on an eggsack, there webbing appears blue under a torch light and great feeding responses. I have another female I fed a blue bottle earlier she wrestled it off the web and had a scrap on the substrate with it lol fearless little things).
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