Different pigment Dubai Roach

Ultum4Spiderz

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The first picture, with no context looked like a recent molt that was just beginning to darken/harden.

I was expecting that was what my response was going to be, but after reading the additional information and taking a closer look, I saw the things you mentioned, and the texture looked a bit off. It's hard to tell texture from a picture though, so that's why the questions earlier.

And at the end of the day, it didn't really matter. You didn't come across as if you where lying and you expressed knowledge of what it should look like if it was just a recent molt. So that left it more likely that you where either accurate in your observations, or simply mistaken.

And if by chance you where mistaken for any reason, time would reveal that to you on its own. So I didn't make any assumptions and provided information into possibilities :)

I look forward to you updating us after it's next molt.
The wing stubs are more unusual than the last few pics posted . Maybe it’s genetics 🧬 have gone haywire..
 

Raghild

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The wing stubs are more unusual than the last few pics posted . Maybe it’s genetics 🧬 have gone haywire..
Yeah. That's why I don't like making assumptions or replying before reading everything. But I can certainly see why people would jump to that conclusion.
 

Raghild

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Look what I mean can you see the difference it isn't freshly molted. It's been like this for a long time. It is also slower than the rest of them. It can't run fast. Thank you for just giving me nice feedback and honest opinion.
I can't quite tell from the pictures, but is the top head plate curling back? Its head looks very visible in one of the pictures, and I can't tell if the plate is curling back in another picture, or if it's just how the light is reflecting.
 

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That's fine your skeptical I'm not trying to get noticed. I literally only have critter cages. I barley started a colony so yes I only have a few. Also this one I can try and zoom in closer. This one has another weird thing. Where those wings are before they show female or male. These are weird they stick up like kind of razor sharp looking. It's texture is also weird, it has a weird feeling to it. I honestly don't care about ppl trying to say they have white roaches when freshly molted. I truly honestly wanted to get some feedback. I've bought a lot of roaches for my tarantulas and never seen this. I only have 3 tarantulas. So I don't have a crazy amount of feeders like other ppl. This is why I know this is the same one. I really don't mind that you don't believe me. There are so many liars and ppl who just want attention. Honestly though I don't know why anyone would really want attention for a roach lol. We're all insect keepers. There are many many more experienced keepers than me. This is why I wanted to ask.
Again, no offence intended and I'm not assuming you're asking the question for anything except your own education ;) .

I'm just saying finding an 'albino' roach is almost a right of passage for all tarantula keepers to go through at one point in time (myself included), yet the balance of probability is the roach is usually just freshly molted.

If you believe this one is rather unique, may I suggest isolating it to see if it survives to the next molt and if so, what it will look like then?

If this isn't a freshly molted specimen, then I'm leaning more towards development difficulties during the last molt cycle then something genetic or inheritable.
 

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Again, no offence intended and I'm not assuming you're asking the question for anything except your own education ;) .

I'm just saying finding an 'albino' roach is almost a right of passage for all tarantula keepers to go through at one point in time (myself included), yet the balance of probability is the roach is usually just freshly molted.

If you believe this one is rather unique, may I suggest isolating it to see if it survives to the next molt and if so, what it will look like then?

If this isn't a freshly molted specimen, then I'm leaning more towards development difficulties during the last molt cycle then something genetic or inheritable.
I’ve had roaches that color before but never with wing 🪽 stubs usually onl adult females have those . OP should definitely isolate it… and observe. Something I never bothered to do. Last weird roach I fed off.. a female who couldn’t have eggs.
 

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It is possible for insects to lack pigmentation, but I wonder if this is more likely a growth problem.

Is it soft to the touch, or hard like the darker ones?

If the shell is hard then it could be just be a pigmentation issue (they need to develop new pigmentation after every molt). It may correct after its next molt, or may darken as an adult if it just produces pigmentation slower. Or it may always be white if it doesn't produce pigmentation at all

But if it is softer than the others, and with the abnormal wings, I would suspect something more going on that is interfering with its growth, including its ability to create new pigmentation.

In the latter situation I would consider separating it from the main colony when it nears maturity to avoid passing on whatever is causing the abnormality. If you want to keep it as a pet, you could always set it up with a small all female colony in a display enclosure :)
Hi I wanted to show you after it molted how it looks. I separated it from the rest of the roaches. I have one more baby one who looks a little similar that I also keep with this one. So I think you were on the money with the pigmentation. So I bought some new roaches way before these ones were born. I introduced them to the colony I had to make life spans longer and healthier. So of course some of my gold mates with brown etc... I think with the gold and brown it wanted to be gold but with some specks of black. It does look more like the others now. It was cool though to see that for a long time so cool and different.
 

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I also posted a new pic of the younger one that is something similar to the old one. But gosh the bigger one now was so cool all white with wings brown looking albino
 

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Hi I wanted to show you after it molted how it looks. I separated it from the rest of the roaches. I have one more baby one who looks a little similar that I also keep with this one. So I think you were on the money with the pigmentation. So I bought some new roaches way before these ones were born. I introduced them to the colony I had to make life spans longer and healthier. So of course some of my gold mates with brown etc... I think with the gold and brown it wanted to be gold but with some specks of black. It does look more like the others now. It was cool though to see that for a long time so cool and different.
Oh gosh I had forgotten about this. Thank you for the update! I always find such things fascinating :)

I still have my scarred roach that lost its wings in an accident. I can always recognize it from the others, and it never gets grabbed as a feeder.

Funny how we can get attached to our pets food 🤣🥰
 
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