Difference between G. Rosea and G. Porteri?

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My guess would be Grammostola sp. north
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Never heard of that one, so she could be neither?
Rose hair is a name attributed to several similar Chilean species.
Surprisingly, I took those about 3 months ago. No molt.
These Chilean species take forever to molt...they are very very slow growing.....It can be a year or more in pre-molt as adults, even juvies can go a year.

Not sure if she's a mature female but she is 3", pretty tiny. This
Definitely not mature...or tiny...these things start out life tiny, but that was likely a decade ago for yours.

Anyway, that's why her abdomen is a bit smaller
Abdomens only get smaller after a molt....my guess is that there's a molt somewhere around.
 

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Rose hair is a name attributed to several similar Chilean species.
These Chilean species take forever to molt...they are very very slow growing.....It can be a year or more in pre-molt as adults, even juvies can go a year.

Definitely not mature...or tiny...these things start out life tiny, but that was likely a decade ago for yours.



Abdomens only get smaller after a molt....my guess is that there's a molt somewhere around.
Nope, definitely no molt. I'm 1000% sure about that, and I explained why it shrunk. She refused food or water for 2 and a half weeks, I thought she was going to molt but she came out of her hide with a very shriveled abdomen. She then drank water for what seemed like an eternity, so I fed her And she ate. That just about 4 days ago, her abdomen is gaining size now. And that's what I was thinking, there is no way she could be mature, but I didn't know they take forever to grow haha I check on her about 3 times a day, scope out her enclosure and everything, no molt :) hopefully I'll get one soon!
 

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agreed

Rose hair is a name attributed to several similar Chilean species.
These Chilean species take forever to molt...they are very very slow growing.....It can be a year or more in pre-molt as adults, even juvies can go a year.

Definitely not mature...or tiny...these things start out life tiny, but that was likely a decade ago for yours.



Abdomens only get smaller after a molt....my guess is that there's a molt somewhere around.
Are you serious about it being a decade? :eek: based on her size, what is She? Sub adult? Thanks for the info!!!
 

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That is not an explanation.....no food or water for 3 months wouldn't have that effect.
Hmm, no clue then man. I know you keep insisting she molted, but trust me. SHE DIDNT. What is your explanation of it? No molt, and it wasn't her fasting, what could it have been?
 

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Are you serious about it being a decade? :eek: based on her size, what is She? Sub adult? Thanks for the info!!!
Could easily be....It certainly could be younger, husbandry plays a huge role, but even at the fastest growth this t would be at minimum 5 years old if it grew really fast....could be older than a decade, too though.....doesn't matter though, you have a long time with her if she is a female...size is more important than age anyway.
 

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Could easily be....It certainly could be younger, husbandry plays a huge role, but even at the fastest growth this t would be at minimum 5 years old if it grew really fast....could be older than a decade, too though.....doesn't matter though, you have a long time with her if she is a female...size is more important than age anyway.
Thanks man, great to know :)
 

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Hmm, no clue then man. I know you keep insisting she molted, but trust me. SHE DIDNT. What is your explanation of it? No molt, and it wasn't her fasting, what could it have been?
Really difficult to say...cause its skin still looks dark, although that last pic its body looks like that of a MM, confusing the situation further.

A lot of us have had ts molt though and never found it....they can chew them to nothing or even bury them or web them in a den. An abdomen just shrinking like that, while still looking plump, and without a molt, defies logic.:vulcan:
 

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Fossorials especially. Sometimes I see a spider out and about and almost have to guess if it molted or not.

I believe it molted.
 

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Really difficult to say...cause its skin still looks dark, although that last pic its body looks like that of a MM, confusing the situation further.

A lot of us have had ts molt though and never found it....they can chew them to nothing or even bury them or web them in a den. An abdomen just shrinking like that, while still looking plump, and without a molt, defies logic.:vulcan:
Wow, mature male?? Would you be able to tell if I got a picture of the underside of her? She has no hooks on her front legs, but then again
Fossorials especially. Sometimes I see a spider out and about and almost have to guess if it molted or not.

I believe it molted.
I guess I'll go with that then, even though she gained no size (Maybe it's not very visible in rose hairs because of how slow they grow?) Definitely not a MM, my uncle is a T owner with 20+ years in the hobby, I have him sex my T's, except my latest avic because he's out of town. Thanks for the info!
 

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Really difficult to say...cause its skin still looks dark, although that last pic its body looks like that of a MM, confusing the situation further.

A lot of us have had ts molt though and never found it....they can chew them to nothing or even bury them or web them in a den. An abdomen just shrinking like that, while still looking plump, and without a molt, defies logic.:vulcan:
Wow, mature male?? Would you be able to tell if I got a picture of the underside of her? She has no hooks on her front legs, but then again I'm not experienced as you. I've had her sexed before, so I'm positive she's female but a second opinion doesn't hurt.

Don't know how I did it, but half way through replying to your comment, I started replying to venom thinking i would just go back and finish my reply to you lol guess it doesn't work that way. Still new, still learning this website haha
 

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Wow, mature male?? Would you be able to tell if I got a picture of the underside of her? She has no hooks on her front legs, but then again

I guess I'll go with that then, even though she gained no size (Maybe it's not very visible in rose hairs because of how slow they grow?) Definitely not a MM, my uncle is a T owner with 20+ years in the hobby, I have him sex my T's, except my latest avic because he's out of town. Thanks for the info!
Tell him to join AB. Always good to have experienced keepers around.

I have slow growers molt and gain extremely little size as well.
 

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Wow, mature male?? Would you be able to tell if I got a picture of the underside of her? She has no hooks on her front legs, but then again
Yeah, just pics of the ends of the pedi-palps.....not saying it is a MM, just want to rule it our as its body does have that look....males can often mature at unexpectedly small sizes.

I guess I'll go with that then, even though she gained no size (Maybe it's not very visible in rose hairs because of how slow they grow?)
Yeah, you are correct....its not like a tropical t that will make you wonder how it got that big in one molt.....
 

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Is it just me, or is nobody actually talking about the difference in porteris and roseas? I really want to know the differences!
 
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